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The "circular firing squad" does not help our party OR the American people, [View all] Jack Valentino Monday OP

Like to believe they did it for right/valid reasons. Agree, they didn't do it to purposely hurt the vulnerable Silent Type Monday #1

It's not circular if you're firing back at the people who fired on you. JHB Monday #2

I don't mean that we shouldn't vent tonight--- Jack Valentino Monday #11

It's never called "circular firing squad" when "centrists" fire shots at Democrats to their left JHB Monday #19

So we should just be good little saps and let the GOP Demsrule86 Monday #41

Agreed but make sure you fire at the right people Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Monday #25

Fire back at those that actually voted for this rather than smear all Democrats. W_HAMILTON Monday #51

Dem voters have stronger backbones than their members of Congress. Rep voters have weaker backbones than their MOCs. LonePirate Monday #3

happiest day in Don's political life. smashing victory and will he be taunting us all starting 4-3-2...1 nt msongs Monday #4

Neither does ignoring strategic mismanagement, nor ignoring a disconnect between RockRaven Monday #5

There are people who are fighting fascism by the trump kacekwl Monday #6

We need fighters.We need winners. usonian Monday #7

Read the room bro Blues Heron Monday #8

I can read it and usually I'd be getting myself a hide or two--- Jack Valentino Monday #12

Bullshit, they cared too little. The courts were forcing the snap money to be paid, the public had our back Blues Heron Monday #14

The court case was not resolved yet, since the SC paused it... Jack Valentino Monday #15

And the split has started from the eight who voted for it rpannier Monday #27

I believe Schumer orchestrated it. Then protected himself dem4decades Monday #58

I agree rpannier Monday #64

I promise my rage goes way beyond tonight. angrychair Monday #21

I have my doubts about the reasons choie Monday #9

Play to win or step aside C_U_L8R Monday #10

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Monday #13

Funny reference.... I have been fighting against groundhogs who destroyed parts of my garden, Jack Valentino Monday #17

I Don't Know If the Voting Public Will Call It.... ColoringFool Monday #16

No doubt the media will call it 'caving'--- since Republicans own them Jack Valentino Monday #18

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Schumer didn't vote for it Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Monday #23

He failed to lead his party quakerboy Monday #30

And each and everyone of them can go to hell FHRRK Monday #34

I find that cowardly. We know he wanted it, whipped Demsrule86 Monday #43

Schumer couldn't get the number 2 Democrat to vote no? dem4decades Monday #60

I believe His No vote was theatre--Schumer recruited the 8, who couldn't be primaried, to vote YES Ars Longa Tuesday #68

Enough is enough. No more traitors ‼️ flying-skeleton Monday #22

The party does enough to hurt itself vercetti2021 Monday #24

Guess what? They ran for the job. rpannier Monday #26

Then tell Democratic senators to stop shooting at us. quakerboy Monday #28

Nope. This one is on the Democrats. herding cats Monday #29

Not what you think ms.pamela Monday #31

Now we know who they are. Let's organize primaries for 26. Demsrule86 Monday #40

They need their feet held to the fire. Blue Full Moon Monday #32

Hear! Hear! pat_k Monday #33

It is Lucy and the football Demsrule86 Monday #39

I do not consider a fake vote that has no Demsrule86 Monday #44

You know what when health care is gone and ultimately Demsrule86 Monday #47

Lecturing people how to think and feel is counterproductive. Irish_Dem Monday #35

That isn't really what I was trying to say, and I'm a little more angry tonight about the whole thing Jack Valentino Monday #65

I grew up in the military so I am a team player. Irish_Dem Tuesday #67

At some point we're going to figure out that they can't/won't save us. BlueTsunami2018 Monday #36

Agree. Demsrule86 Monday #38

"We" are the ones that caused this to begin with by not voting for Hillary in 2016 nor Kamala in 2024. W_HAMILTON Monday #53

You do understand the ACA is now destroyed. Demsrule86 Monday #37

This is the correct answer. JCMach1 Monday #49

Okay....I guess Bettie Monday #42

I think you are right Bettie. Rec Demsrule86 Monday #45

I'm ashamed of myself Bettie Monday #46

I totally agree with you. The worst thing we can do is divide the party over this. Democrats will keep Vinca Monday #48

Didn't the eight divide the party, by voting against the majority? muriel_volestrangler Monday #56

Guess I missed the referendum where Democrats took a vote. I imagine it's more likely split 50/50 on the issue. Vinca Monday #63

That's true, but unless we change, it will happen again. NT Happy Hoosier Monday #50

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Truly sorry, but fuck that. What's NOT helping our party is inability to read the fucking room. Maru Kitteh Monday #54

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Monday #55

We aren't the ones arranging ourselves in a circle. Gore1FL Monday #57

You can hand the Democratic Party victory on avebury Monday #59

Critiquing is not attacking. Being disappointed is not attacking. Talking about running primaries is not attacking. WhiskeyGrinder Monday #61

I agree with everything you have said here--- I only disagree with those who may say that Jack Valentino Monday #66

When our party doesn't help our party SHIT HAPPENS. It seems our politicians just didn't get that memo. nt yaesu Monday #62