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angrychair

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64. I don't understand this perspective

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:01 AM

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We, very literally, lost everything today.
Do you think young people are going to vote for more of Democrats surrendering all the fucking time?
This means millions of people will loss insurance, the very thing we claimed to cared about.

Republicans now know to get Democrats to fold they just have to press the right buttons. They will play these people like a fiddle from here on out.

They have no guarantee that a vote will even happen in the Senate. The Republicans got what they wanted, they stopped given a shit about the ACA subsidies nonsense the moment the 8th Democrat voted in their favor.
They *promised " to vote. How could Senate Democrats be that stupid to think that "promise" means anything?

We just lost the midterms and the election and we will be lucky if the Democratic Party survives at all.

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Declare victory? WTF? Now that's a winning strategy... NewHendoLib Sunday #1

Seems to work well enough for the new American Nazi Party! (formerly AKA Republicans) Jack Valentino Sunday #27

between a rock and a hard place Skittles Sunday #2

Agreed.................... Lovie777 Sunday #8

When faced with a rock and a hard place... returnee Monday #88

another reason why Schumer NEEDS TO GO Skittles Monday #104

It's time to chuck Schumer Hassler Monday #114

WTELF!!!! vanessa_ca Sunday #3

But, be careful with the backstory? imanamerican63 Sunday #4

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It would have been better TheFarseer Sunday #6

Someone's ass should be shown the door for this disaster, Schumer is a good choice. dem4decades Sunday #16

The real damage that Schumer did was giving permission for Democrats gab13by13 Sunday #26

What's next? What do we cave on next time? I can't wait to see. dem4decades Sunday #7

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Excuses and throwing away the next election. quakerboy Sunday #9

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Absolutely! berksdem Monday #110

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If the first three paragraphs of your post are true (and I am not disputing them atm) RockRaven Sunday #19

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Bingo, you are proof of what I posted earlier, gab13by13 Sunday #28

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So I should also risk going bankrupt without Jspur Monday #41

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Thank you for your kind Jspur Monday #73

That really sucks jfz9580m Monday #77

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You seem to have missed the point as well. Wiz Imp Monday #85

Then what was the point of the shutdown at all? jfz9580m Monday #86

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No point in responding to this because it's ridiculous. Wiz Imp Monday #112

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SNAP was court ordered to be restored and was within a day or two of full restoration Arazi Monday #44

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reluctant agreement HBguy Sunday #24

I hear you Skittles Monday #58

I don't understand this perspective angrychair Monday #64

I get what you're saying Skittles Monday #81

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well, one thing for sure Skittles Monday #82

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Sure they will. BannonsLiver Monday #74

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Chuck? Is that you? 0rganism Monday #66

Please Do Not Lecture. Thank You. ColoringFool Monday #67

Thank you. summer_in_TX Monday #68

But "Most Democrats in Congress" Don't Agree With.... ColoringFool Monday #71

Thank you, beautifully explained. betsuni Monday #72

They were winning according to polling. Why cave before even the polls changed? nt Blasphemer Monday #69

I agree with you Pototan Monday #70

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Im surprised at my response srobertss Monday #78

These traitorous senators.... flying-skeleton Monday #80

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Stop orangecrush Monday #87

We declare a win and get on with the business of getting the votes for the subsidies. To do otherwise, is giving Vinca Monday #90

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Amen. Thank you! QueerDuck Monday #99

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"Declare Victory" berksdem Monday #109

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