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99. Where was the Dem messaging on this? Why didn't they point out the 40 B to Argentina would have paid for the subsidies?

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Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:27 PM

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I don't get it, I truly don't. Why weren't the Democratic leaders on every channel, in front of every microphone, making the point that the cost of extending the ACA tax subsidies for another year was less than the $40 billion to bail out Argentina?

It seems this would have been a no-brainer. And they could have included the almost 300 million for the stupid ballroom, shown pictures of Trump's marble and gold toilet...why didn't they do this?

Instead, they argued about how devastating losing healthcare coverage would be (duh), then caved!!!!!!!!!!

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Where was the Dem messaging on this? Why didn't they point out the 40 B to Argentina would have paid for the subsidies? crimycarny Monday #99

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