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SamuelTheThird

(419 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:06 PM Monday

The Real Reason Dems Caved on Shutdown Will Make You Want to Scream [View all]

Really not sure I buy this but

https://newrepublic.com/post/202948/real-reason-democrats-caved-shutdown-obamacare-midterms

Those senators included Dick Durbin, Catherine Cortez Masto, Jacky Rosen, Maggie Hassan, Jeanne Shaheen, John Fetterman, and Tim Kaine, as well as independent Angus King. All eight lawmakers are either retiring or won’t face another election for several years, making the alleged behind-the-scenes rationale for the crumbling stalemate even more asinine.

More than a dozen House and Senate Democrats expressed anxiety that actually preserving premium subsidies for the Affordable Care Act’s enhanced premium tax credits through their shutdown demands could strip them of a winning issue in the coming midterms, reported The New York Times. Their secondary anxiety involved the powerful Senate filibuster, fearing that conservatives might actually bow to Donald Trump’s demands to ax the disruptive legislative tool.

“The political logic of the shutdown fight was inverted: If Democrats got the tax credits extended—if they ‘won’—they would be solving a huge electoral problem for Republicans,” reported the Times. “If Republicans successfully allowed the tax credits to expire—if they ‘won’—they would be handing Democrats a cudgel with which to beat them in the election

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Trust No One OC375 Monday #1
My guess is that our leaders spent most of the last two weeks deciding which Senators could best stand the backlash Silent Type Monday #2
Yeah, I was kind of thinking that as well. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Monday #5
Absolutely they do, MarineCombatEngineer Monday #8
"Held to their principles" BlueTsunami2018 Monday #17
Is this press conference enough for you? Sogo Monday #3
Can you just summarize what's pertinent SamuelTheThird Monday #6
Edited: I've added Jeffries' excellent comments below: Sogo Monday #7
I'd like to, but I'm often NOT in a place FoxNewsSucks Monday #10
Read my entire post. I "caved" and added a summary of Jeffries' excellent comments on the Dem vote. Sogo Monday #11
Read my entire post. I "caved" and added a summary of Jeffries' excellent comments on the Dem vote. Sogo Monday #14
Post removed Post removed Monday #13
Reccing because it's an interesting theory senseandsensibility Monday #4
People twisting themselves trying to come up with an explanation Raven123 Monday #9
Thanks for posting. I agree with this logic. Once the new rates hit, voters will freak. mjvpi Monday #12
They'll have to come back into session and vote on it, or it won't end. Sogo Monday #15
Fetterman campaigned on opposing shutdowns Jose Garcia Monday #16
"...preserving premium subsidies...could strip them of a winning issue in the coming midterms...." Rob H. Monday #18
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