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In reply to the discussion: The crashout on DU over the shutdown resolution is really over the top [View all]Jspur
(773 posts)logic. The Democrats goal with this shutdown was to save the subsidies and they failed miserably. That is what the country is now seeing. Nobody cares even among the Democratic base that the Democrats held out for this shut down because it's now perceived as a loss for the Democrats.
I disagree with you on the belief the Democrats wouldn't get an inch closer to getting the subsidies if they kept the government shutdown until the midterms. I have a hard time believing as bad as the Republicans are they wouldn't be willing to have negotiations after suffering huge midterm losses. I think they would be more motivated to budge then risk future political ass whooping's especially knowing Trump can't protect them from losses. This is also how you weaken Trump's control of them. You show them through their losses how aligning with Trump hurts them even more vs compromising with the Democrats.
A bully is not willing to negotiate until they get punched up in the face quite a few times that the fight is even too much for them to continue which would have eventually happened to the Republicans. The Democrats were starting to touch them up a little bit and then decided to stop which was stupid. Trump now knows for sure he can run over them easily for the rest of his term.
You can argue with me that the Democrats wouldn't necessarily have a blue wave doing what I recommended but I would be willing to take that risk. With the move the Democrats made yesterday in capitulating there is a good chance now a lot of people will be apathetic towards voting for them in '26 and the Republicans will maintain control. That's how stupid this move was by the Democrats. No one is believing Chuck and the rest of those 8 idiots who deflected negotiated this deal in good faith.