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31. Dems with allies like Angus King got one victory:

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 06:50 PM

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They surrendered a week after the elections. They are like a manila folder--dull and doing the same thing over and over.

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there was no path to ACA extension by way of shutdown [View all] edisdead Monday OP

Then what was the point of the shutdown? leftstreet Monday #1

the point was to illustrate the republicans lack of ability to govern edisdead Monday #10

LOL people seemed to already know that leftstreet Monday #17

21 million at NO KINGS BigmanPigman Monday #69

I was at both local No Kings rallies and 90% of the people driving by were supporting us. OMGWTF Monday #76

I've been to over 30 protests during tRump's 2 terms BigmanPigman Monday #84

I do not beleive that 21 million number at all. It is based off one poll and then some some very unsound projections and Celerity Tuesday #104

Was UT_democrat Monday #80

Excuses, excuses. choie Monday #87

To show the American people who's actually fighting for them, and who's actively fighting to hurt them NickB79 Monday #11

I think you've got that ACA thing wrong leftstreet Monday #29

KFF: More Than Half of ACA Marketplace Enrollees Live in Republican Congressional Districts NickB79 Monday #54

Interesting leftstreet Monday #55

Hey OP. Read Ezra Levin of Indivisible's explanation. You'll get it then. Bobstandard Monday #67

Indeed. I read it. I have joined indivisible in their primary Demsrule86 Tuesday #118

I have no desire to kill any Americans... not saying that is what Demsrule86 Tuesday #116

Wait, so the Democrats participated in this ruse choie Monday #88

And to show that they were "fighting for us".... Bettie Tuesday #107

Some but not all... I think. Schumer knew. Demsrule86 Tuesday #117

No I disagree. And now the GOP WILL GIVE NOTHING. Demsrule86 Tuesday #120

The point was to get the subsidies extended or made permanent..... reACTIONary Monday #73

It was very dumb to publicly repeatedly say the shutdown was to save the ACA subsidies then. RockRaven Monday #2

not really. That was the point. edisdead Monday #8

They won't fix shit. Healthcare is gone. Demsrule86 Monday #12

But but but UT_democrat Monday #81

Right. And lost an irreplaceable piece of legislation Demsrule86 Tuesday #100

that one time $2k check that no one will get rampartd Tuesday #108

My last heart procedure... a one day affair Demsrule86 Tuesday #119

They don't have to fix a damn thing, they can just run another grift disguised as a targeted handout and claim victory 0rganism Monday #44

They might as well eat the check for all good it would do. Demsrule86 Tuesday #103

Tell that to the people who missed a payment or lived under extreme stess the past month. CrispyQ Monday #49

Many who have now lost their healthcare and may die. Demsrule86 Tuesday #106

The Democratic leadership told us this is why they let the shutdown happen Mr.WeRP Monday #3

+1 berksdem Monday #74

Democrats supposedly demanded it after last CR was approved. Remember how ticked everyone was. Silent Type Monday #4

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the shutdown brought into focus the republicans failing ti address it edisdead Monday #13

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how long should the gov stay shutdown edisdead Monday #36

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you can talk to me. edisdead Monday #56

People were "angry" and demanding a shutdown to prove we were "fighting" tritsofme Monday #60

I've agreed with you on other things in the past, but not this time. BannonsLiver Monday #61

Well i agree Boo1 Tuesday #113

Well no matter what I am glad we tried to save Demsrule86 Tuesday #114

Elections have consequences. tritsofme Tuesday #115

The shutdown should have lasted a year... right up until the midterms lapfog_1 Monday #6

Yes it should have. Someone tipped Trump Demsrule86 Monday #9

that worm would have turned in 2 weeks when people couldn't travel edisdead Monday #16

nope lapfog_1 Monday #22

I'm always impressed by the brave warriors who were willing to fight until the last federal worker's home is foreclosed tritsofme Monday #21

you know... it is really rich when you criticize someone without knowing anything about them lapfog_1 Monday #42

How does extending the government shutdown and the suffering of the federal workforce make an ACA extension more likely? tritsofme Monday #53

it doesn't its just people falling for the same Dems in array talking points edisdead Monday #57

That would have been a catastrophe with government workers missing paycheck after paycheck. everyonematters Monday #25

exactly! edisdead Monday #34

Don't be so sure of that. BannonsLiver Monday #50

Don't be so sure of what? edisdead Monday #58

You're going to keep the government closed for a year .. ? stopdiggin Monday #26

That would be an utter disaster EdmondDantes_ Monday #35

No section 8, so more homelessness MichMan Monday #70

that be as destructive to the country as the whole tRump administration and no doubt the LymphocyteLover Monday #66

The GOP say that and now there will Demsrule86 Monday #7

there was no path with the gov shut down either. edisdead Monday #32

And so we caved and let the GOP pick the path Demsrule86 Tuesday #112

I both agree and disagree. maxsolomon Monday #14

thats right. edisdead Monday #18

The ACA subsidies were passed in the first place as part of the pandemic relief measures Ocelot II Monday #85

I thought the ARP had "enhanced" subsidies and that there were subsidies prior to that. maxsolomon Tuesday #111

Then why did we have a shut down? Why did Schumer play the game if he knew he was going to Autumn Monday #15

the game only has so many innings edisdead Monday #24

Please berksdem Monday #75

Well, there certainly the fuck isn't now. nt Gore1FL Monday #19

they were NEVER going to bring it to a vote. edisdead Monday #30

"Never" is a long time. Gore1FL Monday #41

why don't they? edisdead Monday #59

I disagree, but we will never know given that the Senste Democrats caved. nt Gore1FL Monday #62

The MAGAs might have caved creeksneakers2 Monday #23

why would they have caved? edisdead Monday #27

There was just an election that looked very frightening to them. creeksneakers2 Monday #90

That was certainly possible. We'll never know. BannonsLiver Monday #33

We need a huge wave election creeksneakers2 Monday #91

I doubt that wave will happen, but agree, he will fuck things up beyond anything we can imagine. BannonsLiver Monday #93

He's been losing about a point a month creeksneakers2 Monday #94

What part about Republicans hate government and would just as soon abolish the federal government Wiz Imp Monday #43

They fear being voted out. creeksneakers2 Monday #92

Tim Kaine, is that you? Xavier Breath Monday #28

Amazing how some people can find it so easy to rationize inaction Bluetus Monday #46

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Monday #47

Dems with allies like Angus King got one victory: Hassler Monday #31

Did I want the Dems to cave? no. Roc2020 Monday #37

Well, the vast majority of Democratic voters don't get why you don't get it yaesu Monday #38

In a month you'll be telling us that the agreement to hold a vote on ACA subsidies was never going to happen either Prairie Gates Monday #40

Nothing to worry about. Garland's got this. Scrivener7 Monday #96

I'll Predict That Right Now. I Know Lucy's Holding the... ColoringFool Monday #97

The issue is we were told we were fighting for healthcare. Irish_Dem Monday #45

And how much fundraising was based on this premise? Bluetus Monday #48

Good point. :( Irish_Dem Monday #51

Alternative view from Prof G and Jessica Tarlov pat_k Monday #52

Then why not authorize the government to stay open iemanja Monday #63

I agree, but it seems many people love to be angry at Dems on social media LymphocyteLover Monday #64

mr fetterman? quakerboy Monday #65

Or a new genre of fan-fic, possibly Zenlitened Monday #95

Thank you. Concise and correct. QueerDuck Monday #68

Stop orangecrush Monday #71

Honestly, berksdem Monday #72

How do you KNOW that??? Seriously. One cannot deduct that just from the way the Dems orchestrated this cave. nt Exp Monday #77

In the coming battle... pat_k Monday #78

The shutdown was the only path. There is no other avenue to implement it. LonePirate Monday #79

In the face of fascism you must fight adam_vermont Monday #82

Bullshit Blues Heron Monday #83

Then why did the Dems play a role in the shutdown? choie Monday #86

Hear hear! 1,000,000% correct FHRRK Monday #89

Hindsight Usually Refers To Some Occurrence, Not Some.... ColoringFool Monday #98

It's still not over. GoodRaisin Tuesday #99

I absolutely do not believe that to be the case, not at all. nt Celerity Tuesday #101

We are pissed because we were led off a damn cliff. Irish_Dem Tuesday #102

they tried. It didn't work. edisdead Tuesday #122

Dems are not to blame for the shut down. Irish_Dem Tuesday #123

There is no path to ACA extension now either Bettie Tuesday #105

While I'm disappointed, i wonder if Democrats looked into the abyss that is named Trump Buckeyeblue Tuesday #109

I guess you know better than 36 Senators Scrivener7 Tuesday #110

O'Donnell agrees with you LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #121