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Then what was the point of the shutdown? leftstreet Nov 10 #1
the point was to illustrate the republicans lack of ability to govern edisdead Nov 10 #10
LOL people seemed to already know that leftstreet Nov 10 #17
21 million at NO KINGS BigmanPigman Nov 10 #69
I was at both local No Kings rallies and 90% of the people driving by were supporting us. OMGWTF Nov 10 #76
I've been to over 30 protests during tRump's 2 terms BigmanPigman Nov 10 #84
I do not beleive that 21 million number at all. It is based off one poll and then some some very unsound projections and Celerity Tuesday #104
Was UT_democrat Nov 10 #80
Excuses, excuses. choie Nov 10 #87
To show the American people who's actually fighting for them, and who's actively fighting to hurt them NickB79 Nov 10 #11
I think you've got that ACA thing wrong leftstreet Nov 10 #29
KFF: More Than Half of ACA Marketplace Enrollees Live in Republican Congressional Districts NickB79 Nov 10 #54
Interesting leftstreet Nov 10 #55
Hey OP. Read Ezra Levin of Indivisible's explanation. You'll get it then. Bobstandard Nov 10 #67
Indeed. I read it. I have joined indivisible in their primary Demsrule86 Tuesday #118
I have no desire to kill any Americans... not saying that is what Demsrule86 Tuesday #116
Wait, so the Democrats participated in this ruse choie Nov 10 #88
And to show that they were "fighting for us".... Bettie Tuesday #107
Some but not all... I think. Schumer knew. Demsrule86 Tuesday #117
No I disagree. And now the GOP WILL GIVE NOTHING. Demsrule86 Tuesday #120
The point was to get the subsidies extended or made permanent..... reACTIONary Nov 10 #73
It was very dumb to publicly repeatedly say the shutdown was to save the ACA subsidies then. RockRaven Nov 10 #2
not really. That was the point. edisdead Nov 10 #8
They won't fix shit. Healthcare is gone. Demsrule86 Nov 10 #12
But but but UT_democrat Nov 10 #81
Right. And lost an irreplaceable piece of legislation Demsrule86 Tuesday #100
that one time $2k check that no one will get rampartd Tuesday #108
My last heart procedure... a one day affair Demsrule86 Tuesday #119
They don't have to fix a damn thing, they can just run another grift disguised as a targeted handout and claim victory 0rganism Nov 10 #44
They might as well eat the check for all good it would do. Demsrule86 Tuesday #103
Tell that to the people who missed a payment or lived under extreme stess the past month. CrispyQ Nov 10 #49
Many who have now lost their healthcare and may die. Demsrule86 Tuesday #106
The Democratic leadership told us this is why they let the shutdown happen Mr.WeRP Nov 10 #3
+1 berksdem Nov 10 #74
Democrats supposedly demanded it after last CR was approved. Remember how ticked everyone was. Silent Type Nov 10 #4
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the shutdown brought into focus the republicans failing ti address it edisdead Nov 10 #13
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how long should the gov stay shutdown edisdead Nov 10 #36
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you can talk to me. edisdead Nov 10 #56
People were "angry" and demanding a shutdown to prove we were "fighting" tritsofme Nov 10 #60
I've agreed with you on other things in the past, but not this time. BannonsLiver Nov 10 #61
Well i agree Boo1 Tuesday #113
Well no matter what I am glad we tried to save Demsrule86 Tuesday #114
Elections have consequences. tritsofme Tuesday #115
The shutdown should have lasted a year... right up until the midterms lapfog_1 Nov 10 #6
Yes it should have. Someone tipped Trump Demsrule86 Nov 10 #9
that worm would have turned in 2 weeks when people couldn't travel edisdead Nov 10 #16
nope lapfog_1 Nov 10 #22
I'm always impressed by the brave warriors who were willing to fight until the last federal worker's home is foreclosed tritsofme Nov 10 #21
you know... it is really rich when you criticize someone without knowing anything about them lapfog_1 Nov 10 #42
How does extending the government shutdown and the suffering of the federal workforce make an ACA extension more likely? tritsofme Nov 10 #53
it doesn't its just people falling for the same Dems in array talking points edisdead Nov 10 #57
That would have been a catastrophe with government workers missing paycheck after paycheck. everyonematters Nov 10 #25
exactly! edisdead Nov 10 #34
Don't be so sure of that. BannonsLiver Nov 10 #50
Don't be so sure of what? edisdead Nov 10 #58
You're going to keep the government closed for a year .. ? stopdiggin Nov 10 #26
That would be an utter disaster EdmondDantes_ Nov 10 #35
No section 8, so more homelessness MichMan Nov 10 #70
that be as destructive to the country as the whole tRump administration and no doubt the LymphocyteLover Nov 10 #66
The GOP say that and now there will Demsrule86 Nov 10 #7
there was no path with the gov shut down either. edisdead Nov 10 #32
And so we caved and let the GOP pick the path Demsrule86 Tuesday #112
I both agree and disagree. maxsolomon Nov 10 #14
thats right. edisdead Nov 10 #18
The ACA subsidies were passed in the first place as part of the pandemic relief measures Ocelot II Nov 10 #85
I thought the ARP had "enhanced" subsidies and that there were subsidies prior to that. maxsolomon Tuesday #111
Then why did we have a shut down? Why did Schumer play the game if he knew he was going to Autumn Nov 10 #15
the game only has so many innings edisdead Nov 10 #24
Please berksdem Nov 10 #75
Well, there certainly the fuck isn't now. nt Gore1FL Nov 10 #19
they were NEVER going to bring it to a vote. edisdead Nov 10 #30
"Never" is a long time. Gore1FL Nov 10 #41
why don't they? edisdead Nov 10 #59
I disagree, but we will never know given that the Senste Democrats caved. nt Gore1FL Nov 10 #62
The MAGAs might have caved creeksneakers2 Nov 10 #23
why would they have caved? edisdead Nov 10 #27
There was just an election that looked very frightening to them. creeksneakers2 Nov 10 #90
That was certainly possible. We'll never know. BannonsLiver Nov 10 #33
We need a huge wave election creeksneakers2 Nov 10 #91
I doubt that wave will happen, but agree, he will fuck things up beyond anything we can imagine. BannonsLiver Nov 10 #93
He's been losing about a point a month creeksneakers2 Nov 10 #94
What part about Republicans hate government and would just as soon abolish the federal government Wiz Imp Nov 10 #43
They fear being voted out. creeksneakers2 Nov 10 #92
Tim Kaine, is that you? Xavier Breath Nov 10 #28
Amazing how some people can find it so easy to rationize inaction Bluetus Nov 10 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 10 #47
Dems with allies like Angus King got one victory: Hassler Nov 10 #31
Did I want the Dems to cave? no. Roc2020 Nov 10 #37
Well, the vast majority of Democratic voters don't get why you don't get it yaesu Nov 10 #38
In a month you'll be telling us that the agreement to hold a vote on ACA subsidies was never going to happen either Prairie Gates Nov 10 #40
Nothing to worry about. Garland's got this. Scrivener7 Nov 10 #96
I'll Predict That Right Now. I Know Lucy's Holding the... ColoringFool Nov 10 #97
The issue is we were told we were fighting for healthcare. Irish_Dem Nov 10 #45
And how much fundraising was based on this premise? Bluetus Nov 10 #48
Good point. :( Irish_Dem Nov 10 #51
Alternative view from Prof G and Jessica Tarlov pat_k Nov 10 #52
Then why not authorize the government to stay open iemanja Nov 10 #63
I agree, but it seems many people love to be angry at Dems on social media LymphocyteLover Nov 10 #64
mr fetterman? quakerboy Nov 10 #65
Or a new genre of fan-fic, possibly Zenlitened Nov 10 #95
Thank you. Concise and correct. QueerDuck Nov 10 #68
Stop orangecrush Nov 10 #71
Honestly, berksdem Nov 10 #72
How do you KNOW that??? Seriously. One cannot deduct that just from the way the Dems orchestrated this cave. nt Exp Nov 10 #77
In the coming battle... pat_k Nov 10 #78
The shutdown was the only path. There is no other avenue to implement it. LonePirate Nov 10 #79
In the face of fascism you must fight adam_vermont Nov 10 #82
Bullshit Blues Heron Nov 10 #83
Then why did the Dems play a role in the shutdown? choie Nov 10 #86
Hear hear! 1,000,000% correct FHRRK Nov 10 #89
Hindsight Usually Refers To Some Occurrence, Not Some.... ColoringFool Nov 10 #98
It's still not over. GoodRaisin Tuesday #99
I absolutely do not believe that to be the case, not at all. nt Celerity Tuesday #101
We are pissed because we were led off a damn cliff. Irish_Dem Tuesday #102
they tried. It didn't work. edisdead Tuesday #122
Dems are not to blame for the shut down. Irish_Dem Tuesday #123
There is no path to ACA extension now either Bettie Tuesday #105
While I'm disappointed, i wonder if Democrats looked into the abyss that is named Trump Buckeyeblue Tuesday #109
I guess you know better than 36 Senators Scrivener7 Tuesday #110
O'Donnell agrees with you LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #121
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