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Jack Valentino

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65. That isn't really what I was trying to say, and I'm a little more angry tonight about the whole thing

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:36 PM

Monday

than I was last night... Far be it for me to tell people to "shut up"!
(Usually I'M the one here who people want to 'shut up', judging by my hide experience)
((I had some weird inclination to try to be a 'voice of reason' last night,
which goes completely against my usual inclinations))--

What I really don't want to see is people blaming 'Democrats' for "caving" on this fight,
when only 7 Democrats and one independent who caucuses with the Democrats,
actually voted to cave on this shutdown--
while 39 Democrats and one independent voted against action on the bill!

BLAME the Senators who voted to cave, BY ALL MEANS---
and raise hell with them by any means that anyone wishes,
including public statements against them!!!---

but don't say "the Democrats caved" when only 7 of them did---
that's what I really meant....

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The "circular firing squad" does not help our party OR the American people, [View all] Jack Valentino Monday OP

Like to believe they did it for right/valid reasons. Agree, they didn't do it to purposely hurt the vulnerable Silent Type Monday #1

It's not circular if you're firing back at the people who fired on you. JHB Monday #2

I don't mean that we shouldn't vent tonight--- Jack Valentino Monday #11

It's never called "circular firing squad" when "centrists" fire shots at Democrats to their left JHB Monday #19

So we should just be good little saps and let the GOP Demsrule86 Monday #41

Agreed but make sure you fire at the right people Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Monday #25

Fire back at those that actually voted for this rather than smear all Democrats. W_HAMILTON Monday #51

Dem voters have stronger backbones than their members of Congress. Rep voters have weaker backbones than their MOCs. LonePirate Monday #3

happiest day in Don's political life. smashing victory and will he be taunting us all starting 4-3-2...1 nt msongs Monday #4

Neither does ignoring strategic mismanagement, nor ignoring a disconnect between RockRaven Monday #5

There are people who are fighting fascism by the trump kacekwl Monday #6

We need fighters.We need winners. usonian Monday #7

Read the room bro Blues Heron Monday #8

I can read it and usually I'd be getting myself a hide or two--- Jack Valentino Monday #12

Bullshit, they cared too little. The courts were forcing the snap money to be paid, the public had our back Blues Heron Monday #14

The court case was not resolved yet, since the SC paused it... Jack Valentino Monday #15

And the split has started from the eight who voted for it rpannier Monday #27

I believe Schumer orchestrated it. Then protected himself dem4decades Monday #58

I agree rpannier Monday #64

I promise my rage goes way beyond tonight. angrychair Monday #21

I have my doubts about the reasons choie Monday #9

Play to win or step aside C_U_L8R Monday #10

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Monday #13

Funny reference.... I have been fighting against groundhogs who destroyed parts of my garden, Jack Valentino Monday #17

I Don't Know If the Voting Public Will Call It.... ColoringFool Monday #16

No doubt the media will call it 'caving'--- since Republicans own them Jack Valentino Monday #18

Post removed Post removed Monday #20

Schumer didn't vote for it Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Monday #23

He failed to lead his party quakerboy Monday #30

And each and everyone of them can go to hell FHRRK Monday #34

I find that cowardly. We know he wanted it, whipped Demsrule86 Monday #43

Schumer couldn't get the number 2 Democrat to vote no? dem4decades Monday #60

I believe His No vote was theatre--Schumer recruited the 8, who couldn't be primaried, to vote YES Ars Longa Tuesday #68

Enough is enough. No more traitors ‼️ flying-skeleton Monday #22

The party does enough to hurt itself vercetti2021 Monday #24

Guess what? They ran for the job. rpannier Monday #26

Then tell Democratic senators to stop shooting at us. quakerboy Monday #28

Nope. This one is on the Democrats. herding cats Monday #29

Not what you think ms.pamela Monday #31

Now we know who they are. Let's organize primaries for 26. Demsrule86 Monday #40

They need their feet held to the fire. Blue Full Moon Monday #32

Hear! Hear! pat_k Monday #33

It is Lucy and the football Demsrule86 Monday #39

I do not consider a fake vote that has no Demsrule86 Monday #44

You know what when health care is gone and ultimately Demsrule86 Monday #47

Lecturing people how to think and feel is counterproductive. Irish_Dem Monday #35

That isn't really what I was trying to say, and I'm a little more angry tonight about the whole thing Jack Valentino Monday #65

I grew up in the military so I am a team player. Irish_Dem Tuesday #67

At some point we're going to figure out that they can't/won't save us. BlueTsunami2018 Monday #36

Agree. Demsrule86 Monday #38

"We" are the ones that caused this to begin with by not voting for Hillary in 2016 nor Kamala in 2024. W_HAMILTON Monday #53

You do understand the ACA is now destroyed. Demsrule86 Monday #37

This is the correct answer. JCMach1 Monday #49

Okay....I guess Bettie Monday #42

I think you are right Bettie. Rec Demsrule86 Monday #45

I'm ashamed of myself Bettie Monday #46

I totally agree with you. The worst thing we can do is divide the party over this. Democrats will keep Vinca Monday #48

Didn't the eight divide the party, by voting against the majority? muriel_volestrangler Monday #56

Guess I missed the referendum where Democrats took a vote. I imagine it's more likely split 50/50 on the issue. Vinca Monday #63

That's true, but unless we change, it will happen again. NT Happy Hoosier Monday #50

Post removed Post removed Monday #52

Truly sorry, but fuck that. What's NOT helping our party is inability to read the fucking room. Maru Kitteh Monday #54

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Monday #55

We aren't the ones arranging ourselves in a circle. Gore1FL Monday #57

You can hand the Democratic Party victory on avebury Monday #59

Critiquing is not attacking. Being disappointed is not attacking. Talking about running primaries is not attacking. WhiskeyGrinder Monday #61

I agree with everything you have said here--- I only disagree with those who may say that Jack Valentino Monday #66

When our party doesn't help our party SHIT HAPPENS. It seems our politicians just didn't get that memo. nt yaesu Monday #62