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ericjhensal

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Tue Nov 11, 2025, 11:41 AM Tuesday

Is it ethical for Democrats to keep SNAP recipients in a protest without their consent? [View all]

]https://erichensal.substack.com/p/consent-for-protest?utm_source=democraticunderground&utm_medium=forum&utm_campaign=consent_for_protest&utm_content=discussion_post

How ethical is it to make children go without food for a political fight without any consent?

For every person talking about senators “caving” to Trump—you are not getting call after call about hungry children back home. If your voicemails were filled with people pleading for food, your attitude on “caving” would change if you could prevent that hunger. If a progressive screams about Schumer f’cking up without giving consent to protest serious thought, we must discuss ethics in political strategy—now.

It is immoral enough that shutdowns injure federal employees, putting them into difficult financial situations and creating unwarranted family stress. But within the civil service culture there has been for decades an understanding that shutdowns are always possible. These are never a surprise, giving workers time to plan and save to get through one. Then, at the end, federal employees will be paid. So, while powerless to prevent shutdowns and often forced to work without pay, it is, sadly, a hazard people knowingly accept when swearing their oath to the Constitution as civil servants. And we should thank them for their service.

For the rest of us, a shutdown presents a range of inconveniences we do not choose, from air travel reductions to closed national parks. However, Social Security checks go out and essential functions continue. But the trauma Trump inflicts on people receiving SNAP is different. Accepting SNAP benefits is not a political decision, but one made for survival. There is no history of SNAP being cut off during a shutdown. This is new ground to fight on, and people on SNAP did not sign up to fight in the first place.

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Is it ethical to let them die from lack of medical care orangecrush Tuesday #1
Apparently Cirsium Tuesday #32
Theoretically you can still get health care if you don't have insurance. You can't go without food. n/t valleyrogue Tuesday #36
Theoretically orangecrush Tuesday #40
is it ethical to let 50,000+ Americans die each year from lack of healthcare without their consent? nt yaesu Tuesday #2
Is it ethical to let 43 million people starve to death? n/t valleyrogue Tuesday #37
Wut. SSJVegeta Tuesday #3
That's ridiculous. Follow that & everyone would only be allowed to speak for themselves. bucolic_frolic Tuesday #4
It was not legal for the con artist to take away their benefits Quiet Em Tuesday #5
Well which will be more catastrophic for us all? Stargleamer Tuesday #6
Offers no proof of these calls... lame54 Tuesday #7
A lot of these apologist articles are popping up, wonder how much putin is paying the influencers/bloggers? yaesu Tuesday #8
One of them from someone who only has 8 posts since joining in 2020. MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #15
Why would Putin want apologist articles for Democrats? AZJonnie Tuesday #27
Definitely a weird comment. tritsofme Tuesday #33
so all the GOP needs to do is threaten to hurt people... mike_c Tuesday #9
And here we go again, MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #10
So, in this wealthiest country in the world, you buy into the narrative Scrivener7 Tuesday #11
Which should you choose? Seems to me it's a Kobayashi Maru. Ocelot II Tuesday #12
Neither. November SNAP went out and we were close Scrivener7 Tuesday #13
The Senate deal fully funds SNAP with an increase in appropriations until the end of the fiscal year (Sept. 30, 2026). lapucelle Tuesday #17
Again, we were on the verge of getting SNAP protected anyway. So I'll put you in the Scrivener7 Tuesday #25
Well said, gab13by13 Tuesday #26
"It was probably going to happen anyway" is such an *interesting* take, especially when the bill passed last night lapucelle Tuesday #39
"I'm putting my faith in republicans standing by their word rather than in Justice Jackson" Scrivener7 Tuesday #45
What are you talking about? If Johnson makes any changes to the bill passed by the Senate lapucelle Tuesday #47
+1 leftstreet Tuesday #21
No. It's the trolley problem. Layzeebeaver Tuesday #20
The Kobayashi Maru has a solution ericjhensal Tuesday #24
The Senate deal fully funds SNAP (with an increase in appropriations) until Sept. 30, 2026, lapucelle Tuesday #14
The food situation is immediate. The ACA subsidies are 1.5 months away. And if after all of this, we can't draft Silent Type Tuesday #16
I Don't Understand Your Premise. Do We Vote On... ColoringFool Tuesday #18
The "One Big Ugly Bill" cut SNAP benefits and added work requirements. Those recipients that walkingman Tuesday #19
So many new people here lately leftstreet Tuesday #22
If we made people go hungry for a few months, what could be gained and what would we leave behind? ericjhensal Tuesday #23
Again, November SNAP went out, and we were on the verge of restoring it permanently. Scrivener7 Tuesday #29
SNAP benefits were going to be restored without the CR. gab13by13 Tuesday #30
I'm a SNAP recipient BeerBarrelPolka Tuesday #42
I'll be without health insurance and healthcare on January 1 Arazi Tuesday #28
Losing your insurance is wrong ericjhensal Tuesday #31
Are you of the belief that people were asked to sacrifice and go without adequate food? Quiet Em Tuesday #41
We were/are a day (or a few days at most) of SCOTUS ordering SNAP restored Arazi Tuesday #43
November SNAP went out, and the courts were about to restore it permanently. NO ONE Scrivener7 Tuesday #46
It is as ethical (or unethical) as every and any other vote which Congress takes. RockRaven Tuesday #34
Don't forget that cutting SNAP is the GOP plan Ritabert Tuesday #35
Huh. malaise Tuesday #38
Under the circumstances... -misanthroptimist Tuesday #44
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