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Celerity

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25. False spin, there was zero chance that anything passed with unanimous consent could have stopped the final passage.

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Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:04 PM

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If there was ANY way to actually block final passage, then then some or all of the 39 Democratic Senate caucus members who voted No on the procedural 'cave-in' Sunday vote and voted No on the Monday final passage vote would have stopped the unanimous consent procedural votes from happening and forced roll call votes (which would have passed, like all the others I listed, 60-40 via roll call).

Once the Sunday procedural vote passed via the Cave-In 8's capitulation, the entire thing passing on Monday and going to the House was a fait accompli. End of story.

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"The Democrats" did not cave. 36 Democrats stood firm and are as pissed as we are. [View all] Scrivener7 Tuesday OP

This doesn't work anymore. People have had it with "the game." Maru Kitteh Tuesday #1

I agree, but I think we can't let the ones who put airline profits over us define us to ourselves. Scrivener7 Tuesday #2

Blue no matter who. The person doesn't matter, their individual beliefs don't matter... Lancero Tuesday #15

Agreed. Free Folk DONT KNEEL. Volaris Tuesday #29

Many people were hurting. Several I know have lost all hope. quaint Tuesday #3

I'm sure some are pissed, but there is no way that the specific ones who voted with the Rs weren't calculated Jbraybarten Tuesday #4

these 8 were designated to cave in the interest of, to be nice, opening the gov't and food stamps rampartd Tuesday #10

United we stand, divided we fall. IMO it is a reflection of the party. In It to Win It Tuesday #5

Both sides Johnny2X2X Tuesday #6

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How does that work? Scrivener7 Tuesday #8

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No it wasn't. intheflow Tuesday #9

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You appear to be a troll 33taw Tuesday #27

This is a false claim, both the Sunday 'cave-in' procedural vote AND the Monday final passage vote passed 60-40. Celerity Tuesday #14

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False spin, there was zero chance that anything passed with unanimous consent could have stopped the final passage. Celerity Tuesday #25

Welcome to DU IronLionZion Tuesday #22

And the Titanic didn't really sink because the gash in the hull wasn't THAT wide.... jcmaine72 Tuesday #13

39, not 36. We have 47 Democratic Caucus Senate members. 8 caved. 39 voted No, plus Rand Paul voted No, yielding 40 No's Celerity Tuesday #16

OK, but I think Schumer arranged this, though he voted against it. Scrivener7 Tuesday #21

I know people who have no money for food right now Erda Tuesday #17

The DINO 8 Gaytano70 Tuesday #18

10. Max 10 quakerboy Tuesday #19

It doesn't take more than the leadership. As in Schumer. If Schumer organized this, Scrivener7 Tuesday #20

38 Dems plus Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders voted Oppose IronLionZion Tuesday #24

They caved because PXR-5 Tuesday #26

Nobody said they all caved. The effect is still the same. Blue dogs drag down yellow dogs and Progressives every time. ChicagoTeamster Tuesday #28