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6. which is what republicans have done
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:13 PM
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...now firmly established in the public's view that republicans have been completely in control of that since before the shutdown.

That's due to the success of both Democratic leaders and others in making it appear to be a consequence of the shutdown by prioritizing it in every statement and appearance.

I'm sure they both recognized the value of that advocacy and focus was unlikely to result in republicans just giving something away that they had already refused to just because Americans were hurting, just as republicans had intended.

So we postponed the fight until after the holidays. Republicans can still do the thing they haven't yet done, and no federal worker, no person relying on the government for their basic needs has to sacrifice those things for the politics, at least over the holidays.

The most interesting development is that the vote scheduled on the ACA subsidies will occur after higher premiums have already gone into effect a few weeks previous. I don't know what people expected republicans to care about a government they don't appreciate and are trying to end, enough to bend on an ACA tax credit they didn't want for Americans in the first place.

The ONLY lever the party has is a people-powered elevation of the issue, and they've pulled a hat trick on that one, making it the most important issue today when NO one was prioritizing it. Not to mention the Schumer-Biden feat of forcing this vital benefit into a reconciliation budget during the pandemic, knowing full well that the temporary credit would be politically fraught for anyone trying to remove it.

That's not shutdown politics, it's advocacy that stretches from the creation of the tax benefit to the showdown over the expiration deadline. Even though the shutdown aided the politics through the deftness of our party leaders, it's not the end game. It never was, banking on republicans caring about the pain caused to anyone in their way.

This is now down to their relationships with their own voters, not Democrats ready to bail them out of the hot water that Schumer and Jeffries have drawn for them to drown in.

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LOL, no thanks, i've seen enough Lawrence apology posts for the disgusting backstabbing. nt yaesu Tuesday #1
par bigtree Tuesday #2
Boy did we pull one over on them. Emile Tuesday #3
Seems unwise to proudly take ownership of 15M Americans losing health coverage. RockRaven Tuesday #4
which is what republicans have done bigtree Tuesday #6
Then we should've let them nuke the filibuster. mr715 Tuesday #23
what, the ones that compromised for two more months of funding bigtree Wednesday #50
Meh. Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #5
it's funny. I read these things to inform myself. Including posts and replies bigtree Tuesday #7
The voters will do the math Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #8
voters need to understand the math bigtree Tuesday #9
Telling voters what they "need to understand" has been SUCH A WINNING STRATEGY. Maru Kitteh Tuesday #16
it's like I raised my children bigtree Tuesday #22
You believe voters and children respond favorably to condescension. Maru Kitteh Tuesday #28
I may not be an eloquent enough writer but I'm not campaigning bigtree Tuesday #30
Your dismissal of my comments doesn't change the fact that voters don't GAF about senate traditions Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #19
you missed his point bigtree Tuesday #31
Mommy's drunk and Daddy won't pay the bills, and it's the kids who are spoiled? Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #35
what? bigtree Tuesday #36
I just saw mention in a book of Lawrence working for Moynihan: betsuni Wednesday #44
he had adoringly long hair back then. bigtree Wednesday #47
Nope. This is a transcript for personal use, not commercial purposes, so it falls under 'fair use,' ancianita Tuesday #13
That's not what fair use is Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #15
Note under DU's copyright section... ancianita Tuesday #18
From DU's TOS: Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #20
Yeah. I linked it. Read the parts you prefer. ancianita Tuesday #21
"What does 'caved' mean?" A powerful trigger, symptoms include excessive online trolling and foaming at the mouth. betsuni Tuesday #10
Thank you. Esp for the transcript, since reading enhances short and long term memory. ancianita Tuesday #11
First off, John Glenn was a Marine BeerBarrelPolka Tuesday #12
oh that makes all the difference bigtree Tuesday #33
If he can't get that right BeerBarrelPolka Wednesday #37
if YOU can't get that right... bigtree Wednesday #39
I am right. O'Donnell is wrong. He went into space as a Marine. BeerBarrelPolka Wednesday #40
lawd bigtree Wednesday #41
I was not inaccurate BeerBarrelPolka Wednesday #42
that's not 'all there is to it' you left a lot out bigtree Wednesday #43
What he wrote regarding the agreement BeerBarrelPolka Wednesday #45
facts he mentioned about the agreement that he got right bigtree Wednesday #48
271 Republicans caved to the demands of five Democrats BeerBarrelPolka Wednesday #49
alright, be done. bigtree Wednesday #51
Leave it to Lawrence to spell this "caving" out for everybody to understand. n/t valleyrogue Tuesday #14
That is a lot of words for "Back to square one" Sympthsical Tuesday #17
Lawrence needs to sit down with Jon Stewart. SleeplessinSoCal Tuesday #24
I think I understand what Lawrence is getting at. Katinfl Tuesday #25
I am a huge Lawrence fan senseandsensibility Tuesday #26
I appreciate Lawrence's perspective Redleg Tuesday #27
I agree with Lawrence LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #29
. MorbidButterflyTat Tuesday #32
I appreciate Lawrence's messaging crimycarny Tuesday #34
Lawrence thinks we can't see or understand what's going on in plain view. ihaveaquestion Wednesday #38
for Schumer's critics, the fight ended when the shutdown ended. bigtree Wednesday #46
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