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gulliver

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89. We'll either cool off or pay at the polls next year

Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:20 PM

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Love your post. Well said.

Because of social media and the legacy media business model of getting all our hormones in an uproar, we're unfortunately going to be very vulnerable to steering ourselves into a ditch.

We can hope. Maybe people will count to ten, really think this thing through, tune out everybody who's sweating, whose face is a little too red, and who's standing on the table. Those folks, for the information of all, belong squarely on the list of non-leaders.

We have to trust. We have to back each other. We have to stay cool. Or Trump and the Republicans are just going to laugh at us.

Right now, we have the proper definition of the word "irony" being demonstrated. The folks who are angry about not getting the health care subsidies extended are so angry that they're going to weaken our position in December for getting the subsidies extended.

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