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In reply to the discussion: Wikileaks Ukraine cable proves US government knew of fascist threat [View all]polly7
(20,582 posts)31. I don't know how anyone can deny it anymore.
Fiery Chaos in Odessa: 42 Perish After Ukrainians Launch Waco-Like Assault
AlterNet / By Nicolas J.S. Davies
The group behind the clashes is Right Sector, the strike force of the U.S.-backed coup that overthrew Ukraine's government.
May 5, 2014
The death toll in Odessa stands at 42 people killed, most of them burned to death or suffocated by smoke inhalation in the inferno at the Trade Unions House. There is no dispute over who were the victims and who were their killers. The victims were pro-Russian protesters who had occupied the building. The attackers who set fire to it with petrol bombs were members of Right Sector, the ultra-Nationalist strike force of the U.S.-backed coup that overthrew the elected government of Ukraine in February.
Right Sector leader Dmytro Yarosh told Newsweek on March 19th that the Western-backed coup regime in Kiev has organized Right Sector militia members into new paramilitary forces for a "war" to "cleanse the country" of pro-Russian protesters. So it is not clear whether the militiamen responsible for the mass murder in Odessa were in fact newly recruited Ukrainian "National Guard" troops or just "civilian" Right Sector thugs, nor whether they were locals from Odessa or forces sent in from Kiev, Lviv or elsewhere in Western Ukraine.
For Americans, a more serious question hangs over Ukraine's Waco in Odessa and indeed over the entire U.S. role in the crisis in Ukraine. The earliest media reports of Right Sector's existence date only from January 2014 as it took charge of the protests in Kiev, and the earliest article on Right Sector's web site dates from November 25th 2013. Right Sector was created less than six months ago, as the U.S. State Department and the CIA was already laying the groundwork for the coup in Ukraine. So what role has the U.S. played in the recruiting, training and direction of this group that now has so much blood on its hands?
Dmytro Yarosh, Right Sector's leader, joined the Stepan Bandera All-Ukrainian Tryzub (Trident)paramilitary organization in 1994. He became the head of the militia in 2005. Like the neo-Nazi Svoboda Party, one of three parties in the coup government, Tryzub drew inspiration from the World War II-era Ukrainian leader Stepan Bandera and his Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, who massacred tens of thousands of Poles and Jews during World War II and supported German campaigns that killed many more....
Full article: http://www.alternet.org/world/fiery-chaos-odessa-42-perish-after-ukrainians-launch-waco-assault?akid=11793.44541.Ck7lmV&rd=1&src=newsletter990910&t=9
Horrific.
Fascism Is Rearing Its Ugly Head in Ukraine
The fire in Odessa, killing dozens of ethnic Russians, has disrupted the US medias efforts to deny the existence of neo-Nazis.
Consortium News / By Robert Parry
May 6, 2014
As much as the coup regime in Ukraine and its supporters want to project an image of Western moderation, there is a Dr. Strangelove element that cant stop the Nazism from popping up from time to time, like when the Peter Sellers character in the classic movie cant keep his right arm from making a Heil Hitler salute.
This brutal Nazism surfaced again on Friday when right-wing toughs in Odessa attacked an encampment of ethnic Russian protesters driving them into a trade union building which was then set on fire with Molotov cocktails. As the building was engulfed in flames, some people who tried to flee were chased and beaten, while those trapped inside heard the Ukrainian nationalists liken them to black-and-red-striped potato beetles called Colorados, because those colors are used in pro-Russian ribbons.
Burn, Colorado, burn went the chant.
As the fire worsened, those dying inside were serenaded with the taunting singing of the Ukrainian national anthem. The building also was spray-painted with Swastika-like symbols and graffiti reading Galician SS, a reference to the Ukrainian nationalist army that fought alongside the German Nazi SS in World War II, killing Russians on the eastern front...
http://www.alternet.org/world/ukraine-catastrophe-offers-many-frightening-reminders-nazi-era?akid=11793.44541.Ck7lmV&rd=1&src=newsletter990910&t=19
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Wikileaks Ukraine cable proves US government knew of fascist threat [View all]
go west young man
May 2014
OP
Couldn't your question be asked completely in reverse to the Kiev coup?
go west young man
May 2014
#80
Do you support Coup D'etats in Democracies as a way to remove leaders? Should we have done that
sabrina 1
May 2014
#103
There was a coup in Ukraine and a president was installed without the consent of a majority of the
sabrina 1
May 2014
#148
Why is Blackwater in Ukraine? There was a coup, the president is not elected. My question was 'who
sabrina 1
May 2014
#120
There Is No Proof They Are, Ma'am: That Is A Sort Of 'Gish-Gallop', Really
The Magistrate
May 2014
#122
My question was simple, 'who elected the President of Ukraine' and you went off into the parliament
sabrina 1
May 2014
#127
My position in my opinion, is based on a gathering of facts from multiple sources across the globe.
sabrina 1
May 2014
#131
Your Position, Ma'am, Is Neither Consistent, Nor Grounded In Realities Of Governance and Revolution
The Magistrate
May 2014
#133
You can't have it both ways. On the one hand, you claim that the government is 'legitimate because
sabrina 1
May 2014
#134
You Are Attempting To Be Reasonable, Ma'am, But Still Distorting Facts Grotesquely
The Magistrate
May 2014
#147
I am speaking the truth. One doesn't have to struggle too hard to tell the truth. It simply is
sabrina 1
May 2014
#149
There is certainly huge resistance to what normally Democrats would be all over, as they were during
sabrina 1
May 2014
#128
No elected Parliament in a Democratic Nation would condone a Coup of the duly elected President.
sabrina 1
May 2014
#130
'A Rose By Any Other Name Would Smell as Sweet'! Of course they change their NAME but they still
sabrina 1
May 2014
#132
If they are, it's the same reason they're anywhere else: someone's paying them to be
Recursion
May 2014
#146
Too late for an election AFTER a coup, don't you think? It's clear that at least half the country
sabrina 1
May 2014
#144
"the US is backing and financing extremely violent right wing nationalist fascists"
Zorra
May 2014
#2
I did not see that quote in the post. Did I miss it or is it from somewhere else? n/t
pampango
May 2014
#13
"But supporting a government that also happens to include right-wing fascists is not putting..
Cha
May 2014
#100
People are dying on both sides...that is obvious to the most basic simpleton...
go west young man
May 2014
#60
I would suggest to Putin that annexing eastern Ukraine will bring NATO to his border.
pampango
May 2014
#12
Will that change the fact that the cable is from 2008 and the OP is pro-Russian spin? n/t
ProSense
May 2014
#70
They are still cooperating with NATO on Afghanistan supplies, but in 2010 they also posted their
jakeXT
May 2014
#71
There are different kind of stages of involvement, Sweden for example has participated in NATO
jakeXT
May 2014
#86
Some observers like Kucinich or Cohen didn't trust the military part, maybe Russia did too
jakeXT
May 2014
#88
Well this is what happened with the new 'legitimate' government in Parliment today.
Obnoxious_One
May 2014
#107
For some reason you think that being anti-nazi equates to thinking that America should
Obnoxious_One
May 2014
#109
Yes I call people that burn people alive and murder them animals, read the article from #65.
Obnoxious_One
May 2014
#111