General Discussion

Considering how much of our 'freedoms' we are giving up, I would expect that after years of doing so, and billions of dollars, and now they want more, surely they should have had something to show for it, other than strip searching 84 year-old-women.

What do people fear most when the got up each day? From polls taken it appears they fear losing their jobs, not having Health Care and getting sick with no way to get treatment. 44,000 people die each year as a result of that reality. How many die of terror?

Logically we in far more danger of death from our own policies. We have over half a million Americans dead since 9/11 from lack of Health Care. None from terror. So why are we spending all this money on something that is one of the least threats to American lives?

If Bush et al, and now apparently even democrats, are correct, they 'hate us for our freedoms' so why are we giving them what they want? Fear to the point of giving up so many of our rights? The Home of the Brave has been terrified into giving up their rights! Meantime people are dying here, and those are lives we actually could save.

And why do I have to make this argument to democrats? I thought we were the ones who would, once we got the power, would be turning back all these Bush policies. What happened and why are people now arguing FOR what they argued against when Bush was president? What changed, are there more terrorists? How could that be since we've spent trillions killing them every day, we are told?

Aside from anything else, nearly 11 years of war and the surrender of more and more rights, we are told the WOT is nowhere near succeeding. When does it stop? How many more rights, how many more do we have to kill before we feel safe?