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32. My suggestion is that some governors should make it clear to the Feds

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Apr 28, 2025, 03:56 AM

Apr 28

that if the State or local police see unidentified people with guns trying to grab other people, no matter where it happens, the State and local police are being authorized to assume it is a kidnapping and are authorized to use any force necessary to stop the kidnapping up to and including deadly force.

I know the arguments against such a move such as giving Crumb The 1st an excuse to declare all kinds of things. But I would simply point out that there must be a price to pay for kidnapping people and the local authorities cannot just stand by. Strongly worded letters and court cases lasting months and years don't get it when it is all being ignored.

The Feds know damned well they do not need to do this in the manner they are currently. They can get the proper arrest warrants and then serve and apprehend. Just like before. Before a time when they were given carte blanche to become the American Gestapo. In fact they should have that tag applied during any reference to ICE. It should now be ICE-American Gestapo or ICE-AG.Behave like it and you deserve to wear the label. Period.

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ICE promises bystanders who challenged Charlottesville raid will be prosecuted [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Apr 27 OP

Challenging the masked, no ID Gestapo ICE will result in prison time. Irish_Dem Apr 27 #1

No it won't. Chi67 Apr 27 #13

The charges will be obstruction of justice, just like they charged the judge. Irish_Dem Apr 27 #15

What was the name of the group that found so many J6 insurrectionists. travelingthrulife Apr 28 #34

the problem is there is no law requiring them to identify cadoman Apr 27 #25

Yes but the law says Americans have a right to defend themselves Irish_Dem Apr 28 #33

agreed: it is a huge risk to agents cadoman Apr 28 #36

Exactly. Or they grab an armed American citizen. Irish_Dem Apr 28 #37

I get where you are going, but I think the courts will stand here. Happy Hoosier Apr 28 #35

ICE becoming the most hated federal officers in US history? Irish_Dem Apr 27 #2

Link... MayReasonRule Apr 27 #3

Pinkertons on a good day. bucolic_frolic Apr 27 #4

By arriving in unmarked cars, wearing plain clothes and masks, showing no badge, and... surfered Apr 27 #5

When are people going to start doxxing the agents illegally arresting people SSJVegeta Apr 27 #6

Exactly! Chi67 Apr 27 #14

can you share a link to the law requiring them to identify? cadoman Apr 27 #26

HR 6395 SSJVegeta Apr 28 #29

10 U.S.C. 253 looks closely adjacent to ICE's ongoing "work", but does it overlap? cadoman Apr 28 #39

Same here. I mean it seeeems like itll fit, like youre saying... SSJVegeta Apr 28 #40

Supremacy Clause would come into play cadoman Apr 30 #41

I'm still wondering if the people they are nabbing are being read their Miranda rights Bayard Apr 28 #28

ha ha Miranda rights. A quaint old fashioned artifact from the old days. Irish_Dem Apr 28 #38

Miranda rights apply to criminal interrogations cadoman Apr 30 #42

Did ICE really think that they would not get noticed in Charlottesville, given its recent history? tornado34jh Apr 27 #7

Good citizens don't ask questions. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 27 #8

Well, again, if no one is asking what has occurred, no one would have known tornado34jh Apr 27 #12

So that's where all those J6 pardoned felons ended up nwduke Apr 27 #9

Very possible! bluestarone Apr 27 #17

what will the charges be? Marthe48 Apr 27 #10

This has already been to the Supreme Court cannabis_flower Apr 27 #27

I live 40 minutes from MS-13's origin in Los Angeles. Buddyzbuddy Apr 27 #11

it's bad enough they don't have uniforms or ID, what the fuck is up with the balaclava??? LymphocyteLover Apr 27 #16

So an Unidentified Masked Gang grab a guy off the street and shove him in a van. mackdaddy Apr 27 #18

These are abductions & disappearances. Dry runs for abducting citizens. If they are official they can identify themselve Bernardo de La Paz Apr 27 #19

So now they are intimidating witnesses. Conducting raids like criminals with covered faces and no badges. Martin68 Apr 27 #20

ICE needs to be disbanded. orangecrush Apr 27 #21

Kidnapping / abduction azureblue Apr 27 #22

'There is nothing to see here............ Dyedinthewoolliberal Apr 27 #23

ICE officers have no "authority". They are the enforcement wing of those with "authority" namely the US Congress Cheezoholic Apr 27 #24

ICE has become an organization of full-on thugs empowered by trump to kidnap anybody... Hekate Apr 28 #30

Why do they believe not IDing themselves and covering their faces like criminals Figarosmom Apr 28 #31

My suggestion is that some governors should make it clear to the Feds moniss Apr 28 #32