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pnwmom

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Thu May 8, 2025, 09:26 PM May 8

White smoke, Black pope? Genealogist says Leo XIV has Louisiana African roots [View all]

Last edited Thu May 8, 2025, 10:10 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: National Catholic Reporter

Louisiana Creole expert Jari Honora has traced Prevost's ancestry to the Black community of New Orleans. His maternal ancestors lived in the Crescent City before migrating to Chicago in the early 20th century, Honora said.

Leo XIV is not known to have publicly commented having African ancestry, which is part of a mixed heritage that also includes French, Italian and Spanish roots. According to the U.S. Census, Prevost's mother, the late Mildred Martinez, was the mixed-race daughter of Black property owners, the Haitian-born Joseph Martinez and New Orleans native Louise Baquié, a Creole.

As such, Leo XIV could be considered the first Black pope in the history of the Catholic Church, though it is unclear how he identifies racially.

"It's more complicated than that," Honora told Black Catholic Messenger. "I think that a person can be of Black ancestry or have Black roots, but to identify as Black, I think, is all about the lived experience."

Read more: https://www.ncronline.org/news/white-smoke-black-pope-genealogist-says-leo-xiv-has-louisiana-african-roots



From the NY Times;


Lolita Villavasso Cherrie, a co-founder with Mr. Honora of The Creole Genealogical and Historical Association, said that the research appeared to signal a tremendous moment for the history of Louisiana Creoles, if a branch of the pope’s family tree indeed stretched back to New Orleans.

“It would be so fabulous to have someone who has some connection to our people, who give us the recognition we deserve,” said Ms. Villavasso Cherrie, 79, a retired teacher. “I hate to say it, but we feel, many of us, that our history was hidden from us.”

That is in part, she said, because many Creoles have been able to “pass” as white over the years. It was only with the advent of the internet, she said, that many people began to research their family history and became aware of their Creole roots.

Ms. Villavasso Cherrie noted that in the 20th century, a significant number of Louisiana Creoles migrated to the Chicago area and California.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/08/us/pope-leo-creole-new-orleans.html
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I wonder JustAnotherGen May 8 #1
yep. tread lightly here. stopdiggin May 8 #2
The article makes that clear. But the Church publicly announced this geneology right after the Conclave, pnwmom May 8 #4
He does not appear to have discussed his ancestry publicly - Ms. Toad May 8 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author pnwmom May 8 #11
There are documents backing up the genealogist's findings, which he posted online. pnwmom May 8 #12
and you prove my point ... stopdiggin May 9 #15
I said: "I don't think any of them would think he was "claiming an experience he did not live." pnwmom May 9 #16
and yet you seem to be very insistent ? stopdiggin May 9 #20
I wasn't disputing his ancestry. Ms. Toad May 9 #21
But being Jewish has two meanings, and one is related to religious beliefs, so I wouldn't claim to be Jewish either, pnwmom May 9 #23
You conflated a description of his ancestry by others Ms. Toad May 9 #24
I didn't write most of those words. The National Catholic Reporter did. pnwmom May 9 #25
First, ancestry is factual. It exists, not something to be claimed or not. Ms. Toad May 9 #29
It wasn't my caption. It was the article's title. nt pnwmom May 9 #31
"glad he is claiming it" ... stopdiggin May 9 #32
... Solly Mack May 8 #3
That is so cool. Clouds Passing May 8 #5
Better every minute!!! elleng May 8 #6
LOL, I had just added that to the OP. And I agree -- better yet! pnwmom May 8 #7
Frankly, since Obama, such analysis of ancestry seem ultimately counter productive beyond saying Bernardo de La Paz May 8 #9
I even wonder why this is a topic of our conversation. CTyankee May 9 #22
More to love about mzmolly May 8 #10
TY! I Discovered that myself when I Searched for Cha May 9 #13
The significance of this is that it means the hideous "One Drop" doctrine is dead in European Catholicism. /nt artemisia1 May 9 #14
Clickbait headline BaronChocula May 9 #17
2 out of 4 grandparents were Black, by the Census records. That would be more than any Pope in history, pnwmom May 9 #18
Cool Kid Berwyn May 9 #19
The 1st black pope, Pope Victor I, served from 189 to 199 A.D.. He was from North Africa & is depicted in paintings as FSogol May 9 #26
A mongrel American just like me! SARose May 9 #27
We with Louisiana roots all have African genes TexLaProgressive May 9 #28
I'm more interested in the Prevost side ms liberty May 9 #30
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