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BumRushDaShow

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16. An example of redrawing and backlash/back-firing
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 04:48 AM
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and then re-redrawing, would be NY. I think NY lost 5 or 6 (D) seats when they did their 2020 redistricting, ending up having instances of 2 (D)s suddenly running against each other for a new "combined" seat (Nadler vs Maloney was one example). They eventually tweaked it in 2024 and recovered a couple (D)s, but it seems the damage was done.

Alternately, FL had done like TX and managed to manufacture ~5 new (R) seats.

I think the overarching issue is the idea of "gerrymandering" and the apparent SCOTUS dipping and dodging around it (since "elections" are generally handled by the states).

I found an interesting discussion about the recent realignments here and the problems that we as (D)s face - How Gerrymandering Tilts the 2024 Race for the House

and what was noted was this -

(snip)

State courts also played a role in creating Republican advantages, because courts in states where Republicans drew maps (many of them with judges elected in partisan elections) have been much less inclined to police partisan gerrymandering than their counterparts in Democratic states. Thus, while large Democratic-favoring skews have been mostly corrected through legal review, Republican-favoring skews have almost uniformly remained uncorrected. Indeed, courts in many GOP states have followed federal courts’ lead in declaring gerrymandering claims to be political questions that courts have no authority to address.

(snip)


The above observation is concerning. However an interesting "game changer", which has seemingly upended some of the gerrymandering (including for Congressional seats) is the "Ranked Choice" option for primaries and/or the general election. Similarly I think CA has a "jungle primary". This introduces all kinds of candidates, including independents, into the equation.

I know here in PA, we have a closed primary and just this morning, I heard a news story where some indies here in Philly have petitioned the state Supreme Court to force the legislature to change to an "open primary". They noted that PA now has something like 1 million "registered" unaffiliated/Independent voters (I think also distinguishing from some of the known-named "3rd parties" here like the Libertarian Party, Green Party, Constitution Party, Working Families Party", etc).

So I expect the whole "system" is in transition and we are in the middle of the "sausage-making" of that.

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Isn't Texas... Gruenemann Jul 15 #1
extremely moonshinegnomie Jul 15 #9
District 5 is in the Dallas area, not Houston or Austin RussBLib Wednesday #15
We either need to stop promoting this red-blue concept or face reality... Moostache Jul 15 #2
The problem with that thinking is there are many Democrats of lesser means who can't, or don't want to move for a .. electric_blue68 Jul 15 #4
That's why I always said to accomplish this we'd have to offer slightlv Jul 15 #7
Idk, it'd be great if they could be somewhere else, but that's not happenjng... electric_blue68 Jul 15 #14
We on the left need to realize that MASSIVE pushback over DECADES would be required... Moostache Wednesday #17
Moos.. we think along the same lines, with the same passion... slightlv Thursday #19
A return to the concept of Greek city-states mnay be necessary. Moostache Wednesday #18
The problem with leeches Metaphorical Jul 15 #5
"Trump on Tuesday said he would like to see five new GOP seats in Texas." sop Jul 15 #3
Can two "play at that game"? FBaggins Jul 15 #6
They do have this BumRushDaShow Jul 15 #8
Population growth of 108k in a state of almost 40 million is actually shrinking relative to the rest of the country FBaggins Jul 15 #10
That figure was over a single year. It was 250,000+ total over a couple years (including revisions). BumRushDaShow Jul 15 #11
The 3.3 million nationally was also for a single year FBaggins Jul 15 #12
An example of redrawing and backlash/back-firing BumRushDaShow Wednesday #16
AND.... I just spotted this article today (with CA's options) - BumRushDaShow Friday #20
It's a regular pattern: Illegal, Immoral and Unconstitutional. rickyhall Jul 15 #13
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