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In reply to the discussion: Trump hosted party for 'young women' where Epstein was the only guest: New York Times [View all]BumRushDaShow
(156,835 posts)7. I also found a BBC article that had a good summary of the whole "Pizzagate" CT insanity
The saga of 'Pizzagate': The fake story that shows how conspiracy theories spread
2 December 2016
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Despite the complete lack of physical evidence or victim testimony, there are reasons why the hardcore conspiracy theorists are particularly sensitive to allegations of child sex abuse.
It's known, for instance that Bill Clinton and Donald Trump flew on the private plane of convicted child abuser Jeffery Epstein, external. Tony Podesta, the brother of the Clinton aide whose emails were hacked, was a friend of Dennis Hastert, a Republican politician who earlier this year was sentenced to 15 months in prison, and has admitted abusing boys. The Jimmy Savile scandal in the UK has featured in speculation as an example of a serial child abuser getting away with his crimes.
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2 December 2016
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Despite the complete lack of physical evidence or victim testimony, there are reasons why the hardcore conspiracy theorists are particularly sensitive to allegations of child sex abuse.
It's known, for instance that Bill Clinton and Donald Trump flew on the private plane of convicted child abuser Jeffery Epstein, external. Tony Podesta, the brother of the Clinton aide whose emails were hacked, was a friend of Dennis Hastert, a Republican politician who earlier this year was sentenced to 15 months in prison, and has admitted abusing boys. The Jimmy Savile scandal in the UK has featured in speculation as an example of a serial child abuser getting away with his crimes.
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The above excerpt links to a Daily Beast article from back at the time they wrote their article (2016), with the below about Epstein (used the latest archived snapshot version) -
The Billionaire Pedophile Who Could Bring Down Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton
Brandy Zadrozny, 06.30.16 5:00 AM ET
Editor's note: This article has been updated to reflect the withdrawal of Virginia Roberts Guiffre's allegations against Alan Dershowitz and the striking of the allegations from the court record by a federal judge.
For Jeffrey Epstein and his famous friends, the Aughts were a simpler time, when the businessmen, academics, and celebrities who counted themselves among the playboy philanthropists inner circle could freely enjoy the fruits of his extreme wealth and connections.
Epsteins little black book and flight logs read like a virtual Whos Who: Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Larry Summers, Kevin Spacey, Prince Andrew, and Naomi Campbell all hitched rides on Epsteins private planes. Socialites and distinguished scientists went to visit Epsteins island in St. Thomas, and cavorted at epic dinner parties at his palatial townhousethen the largest privately owned residence in New York, as he liked to brag. There, they picked at elaborate meals catered by celebrity chefs like Rocco DiSpirito, marvelled at Epsteins opulent decor, and noted the pack of very, very young model-types with whom Epstein always seemed to surround himself.
But a darker story was going on underneath the glamour. In 2008, Epstein was convicted of soliciting sex from an underage girl and quietly paid settlements to scores of alleged victims who said he serially molested them. But the girls kept coming out of the woodworkin 2014, another young woman filed a lawsuit claiming that Epstein used her as a sex slave for his powerful friendsand that shed been at parties on his private island with former President Clinton.
And just last week, yet another Jane Doe filed a suit in New York accusing Epstein and Donald Trump of raping her at a series of sex parties when she was only 13.
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Brandy Zadrozny, 06.30.16 5:00 AM ET
Editor's note: This article has been updated to reflect the withdrawal of Virginia Roberts Guiffre's allegations against Alan Dershowitz and the striking of the allegations from the court record by a federal judge.
For Jeffrey Epstein and his famous friends, the Aughts were a simpler time, when the businessmen, academics, and celebrities who counted themselves among the playboy philanthropists inner circle could freely enjoy the fruits of his extreme wealth and connections.
Epsteins little black book and flight logs read like a virtual Whos Who: Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Larry Summers, Kevin Spacey, Prince Andrew, and Naomi Campbell all hitched rides on Epsteins private planes. Socialites and distinguished scientists went to visit Epsteins island in St. Thomas, and cavorted at epic dinner parties at his palatial townhousethen the largest privately owned residence in New York, as he liked to brag. There, they picked at elaborate meals catered by celebrity chefs like Rocco DiSpirito, marvelled at Epsteins opulent decor, and noted the pack of very, very young model-types with whom Epstein always seemed to surround himself.
But a darker story was going on underneath the glamour. In 2008, Epstein was convicted of soliciting sex from an underage girl and quietly paid settlements to scores of alleged victims who said he serially molested them. But the girls kept coming out of the woodworkin 2014, another young woman filed a lawsuit claiming that Epstein used her as a sex slave for his powerful friendsand that shed been at parties on his private island with former President Clinton.
And just last week, yet another Jane Doe filed a suit in New York accusing Epstein and Donald Trump of raping her at a series of sex parties when she was only 13.
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With respect to 45's "Miss Universe" venture, there were a bunch of video clips released during the 2016 campaign, of his "shaming" the contestants and even busting into their dressing room. But none of that "stuck".
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Trump hosted party for 'young women' where Epstein was the only guest: New York Times [View all]
BumRushDaShow
Sunday
OP
No doubt. I wouldn't be surprised the MSM owners want the unpredictable trump out, and vance in because
lostincalifornia
Sunday
#10
This. But as usual, they fail to take into account that Vance already has an owner.
YodaMom2
Sunday
#42
It was intentional. They MSM had to be aware of this for years, yet they choose to remain relatively quiet
lostincalifornia
Sunday
#9
It's a tipping point phenomenon, not anything like "a switch" or the media "decides". Also, fickleness of public is a fa
Bernardo de La Paz
Sunday
#18
Ah yes, time to invoke the convenient PTB, the mysterious "they" who control all everything. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Sunday
#30
Obviously elites meet. Your conjecture what happened is just a dubious conjecture; not proved simply by elites meeting.n
Bernardo de La Paz
Sunday
#66
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting. "Conspiracy" isn't a real word, and there is no real meaning to the word in the dictionary
BComplex
Sunday
#41
I also found a BBC article that had a good summary of the whole "Pizzagate" CT insanity
BumRushDaShow
Sunday
#7
exactly--- so much awful stuff was know about Dump and Epstein well before now and the MSM
LymphocyteLover
Sunday
#15
Any abuse to children is wrong. So sad. Protect ;your children and others if needed.
twodogsbarking
Sunday
#22
Trump's behavior towards women, his drug use, his ties to organized crime, and his money from foreign...
Botany
Sunday
#20
And yet, we refuse to do anything about those influences and how they keep people away from justice.
OldBaldy1701E
22 hrs ago
#71
Where I grew up it was referred to as "jail bait". Guess that no longer applies.
twodogsbarking
Sunday
#23
I think the NYT did not publish information as to the 1990s Epstein-only audience event until just now.
John1956PA
Sunday
#36
Could be. In any event it's good to see that they are resurrecting some of this info,
Ocelot II
Sunday
#37
I often wonder if it were young boys if the general MAGA population would get on board with the vile
flying_wahini
Sunday
#31
Whether boys or girls, the children were recruited from families with no financial access
FakeNoose
Sunday
#49
I understand your point. However, maybe the NYT did not have unassailable confirmation of the story until now.
John1956PA
Sunday
#46
This particular allegation about the 1990s "Calendar Girl" event is new to ambit of Trump-Epstein known facts.
John1956PA
Sunday
#60
and yett the neocon rs keep pointing at us gays for being pervs and they get a way with it..
AllaN01Bear
Sunday
#50
Watch Donny file another billion-dollar lawsuit then send a "woe is me. I'm such a victim letter" to his MAGA supporters
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
Sunday
#62