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In reply to the discussion: 'Get over it': some middle America Trump supporters remain unfazed over Epstein files tumult [View all]Prairie Gates
(5,959 posts)15. Just to gauge how dumb the whole narrative is, take this sentence
That was the prevailing mood this week in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, a former steel town and Democratic stronghold that swung heavily for Trump in last Novembers election.
Johnstown is in Cambria County.
The last time Cambria County voted for a Democrat was 2000: Al Gore pulled a narrow win. Bush won it in 2004. McCain won it in 2008. Romney won it in 2012. Trump won it in 2016. Trump won it in 2020. Trump won it in 2024. Did it "swing heavily for Trump" in "last November's election?" Well, swing is a relative term, I suppose. Trump won Cambria County with 66% in 2016. He won with 68% in 2020. He won with 69% in 2024. So, it "swung" from Trump 68% to Trump 69%. Those are the facts. Now let's look at the framing again:
That was the prevailing mood this week in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, a former steel town and Democratic stronghold that swung heavily for Trump in last Novembers election.
Was Johnstown a former steel town. Well, yes.
Was it a former Democratic stronghold? Perhaps many years ago. Even when Gore won it, it could hardly be called a Democratic stronghold. I view this claim as dishonest.
Did it "swing heavily for Trump in last November's election?" No. It voted heavily for Trump as it has done for the last three elections. It also voted heavily for Romney.
OK, qualifiers: I did not drill down into the Johnstown data to distinguish it from Cambria county more generally. But anyone who knows anything about PA and PA politics would laugh out loud to hear Johnstown described as a Democratic stronghold. Maybe 50 years ago.
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'Get over it': some middle America Trump supporters remain unfazed over Epstein files tumult [View all]
BumRushDaShow
Jul 28
OP
establishing the 4th reich is more important than those piffles about morals and ethics nt
msongs
Jul 28
#1
I think the left should keep it on the burner, but don't depend on this to bring the clown down.
C Moon
Jul 28
#3
Betting there are far more men who feel that way that rural women (many who statistically may have suffered similar)
hlthe2b
Jul 28
#8
Wait until ICE shows up at their door, but only takes their 15 year-old daughter. Maybe then it will mean something.
Scalded Nun
Jul 28
#16
"They believe is delivering low inflation, strong border security and sweeping reversals of progressive policies"
mdbl
Jul 28
#20
I wouldn't call this "nuanced" - many MAGA fanatics are about the racism and nothing else
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 28
#24
All that matters is he's America First (racist), a great businessman, anti-immigrant, and speaks their bigoted language.
Doodley
Jul 28
#26
Meanwhile, Trump is losing critical support among Independent voters and others...
AntiFascist
Jul 28
#29