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moniss

(7,836 posts)
5. Once again they will all
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 03:30 PM
Jul 29

talk about "recognition" but put the idea of borders on a very long and very slow walk. Israel should have been forced to go back to the 1967 borders long ago but everybody gave in to the idea of "needed for security" and "we will administer the West Bank and Gaza fairly". So now here we are 77 years down the road from when the leaders of the world said they would address displacement, compensation, right of return and they have done none of it. The promises were hollow then and although it is somewhat of a step forward for major powers to recognize a "state" of Palestine any of the meaningful issues will be slow walked and picked apart and conferences scheduled and people refusing to come and on and on like it has been.

That is why the world must impose borders whether Israel, the Palestinians, the neighboring countries etc. like it or not. This situation in the Middle East has brought the world to the point of problems of nuclear weapons and we cannot risk it escalating and that escalation will not be stopped by bombing the nuclear sites of one country while leaving in place the problems in the region created over the last more than 100 years.

The whacks in Israel running things really won't abide by any recognition of a state of Palestine anyway. They'll be angry at the countries that do but that will be about it. They may pull some diplomats and yell about trade etc. but that will be it.

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Off to read in Depth JustAnotherGen Jul 29 #1
Hamas will NEVER accept a two-state solution. They never have, and they never will. It is in their charter. I wonder lostincalifornia Jul 29 #3
Now I Know JustAnotherGen Jul 29 #6
It is complicated, but most sources indicated an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood was involved. lostincalifornia Jul 29 #15
Nor will Bibi iemanja Jul 29 #22
Hamas does not speak for anywhere near all Palestinians. Big Blue Marble Jul 29 #28
The Palestinian Authority does recognise Israel as a state muriel_volestrangler Jul 29 #7
So Palestine JustAnotherGen Jul 29 #8
Right now... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 29 #9
It's all a problem from hell JustAnotherGen Jul 29 #11
Wish I could rec this statement a million times n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 29 #12
It was elected as the government in Gaza 19 years ago iemanja Jul 29 #23
I never said that Hamas was elected in the West Bank n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 29 #24
You said is was the elected government of Palestine iemanja Jul 29 #25
Fair enough... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 29 #26
As the US voted for Trump iemanja Jul 29 #27
Do any of us who voted for Kamala deserve what we got? Nope SickOfTheOnePct Jul 29 #30
Did these people vote? Is this what they deserved? iemanja Jul 29 #32
A majority of Americans voted for Trump iemanja Jul 29 #34
Duplicate iemanja Jul 29 #33
The Palestinian Authority is the Palestinian govt... Violet_Crumble Jul 30 #36
No, it wouldn't "have to" muriel_volestrangler Jul 29 #16
The PA has proposed taking over Gaza after the war. Israel rejected it. AloeVera Jul 29 #31
OK... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 29 #17
It's not "irrelevant"; the West Bank has the majority of Palestinians (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jul 29 #18
So then you want three states? SickOfTheOnePct Jul 29 #19
No. muriel_volestrangler Jul 29 #20
Does anyone remember when Israel under Labor was comitted to a two state solution, and Hamas and others lostincalifornia Jul 29 #2
News flash: Hamas does not control Gaza; Israel does. Big Blue Marble Jul 29 #29
Hamas controlled it before they started this disaster, and continuues to hold the hostages, and refuses to lostincalifornia Jul 29 #35
bravo UK, and let us ponder bibi's place in history prodigitalson Jul 29 #4
Once again they will all moniss Jul 29 #5
And... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 29 #10
Fair point JustAnotherGen Jul 29 #13
I did say the outside world should impose a solution no matter who doesn't like moniss Jul 29 #14
That slow walk concerns me. That and I don't trust the UK at all -eom vanessa_ca Jul 29 #21
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