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William Seger

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4. There's only ONE reason for banning NATO membership and requiring a reduction in Ukraine's military

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Fri Nov 21, 2025, 01:12 PM

Nov 21

Putin will invade again — his ego will not let him give up on possessing ALL of Ukraine. Dealing with Russia without Zelenskyy is outrageous, and the "deal" it's produced is equally outrageous. I believe the EU will stand with Ukraine because they know why Putin must be stopped, whereas #rump doesn't give a shit except for his pathetic begging for a Nobel Peace Prize.

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Zelenskiy vows not to betray Ukraine after US presents plan demanding concessions [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Nov 21 OP

Good for him. greatauntoftriplets Nov 21 #1

It's hard to say with the fog of war but, gab13by13 Nov 21 #2

I hate he's been put in this position, slightlv Nov 21 #3

There's only ONE reason for banning NATO membership and requiring a reduction in Ukraine's military William Seger Nov 21 #4

If the EU doesn't step in and Ukraine falls Fiendish Thingy Nov 21 #5

Time for Europe, UN, and others to step up. US is an unreliable and dangerous entity now. nt wiggs Nov 21 #6

A firm, NO! Bayard Nov 21 #7

He's my hero. More than one way to spell his last name. twodogsbarking Nov 21 #8

Putin's puppet is slobbering on his boss again. rubbersole Nov 21 #9

This has IQ4.7 repeating what Putin wants KS Toronado Nov 21 #13

That isn't a peace plan, it's essentially a surrender. patphil Nov 21 #10

Art of the Deal: "Just SIGN the goddamned surrender so I can get my goddamned Peace Prize!" William Seger Nov 21 #11

Exactly. Anyone outside of Trump or Putin calling it a peace plan is wild ck4829 Monday #18

If Ukraine holds out through winter, Russia will collapse internally. That's why they're desperate. ChicagoTeamster Nov 21 #12

I'm hoping Zelenski can hold out until the 2026 US elections. Dr. T Nov 21 #14

Let me get this straight: ChazInAz Nov 21 #15

That's the size of it. PSPS Nov 21 #16

"US plan.. " that Putin wrote? Cha Nov 21 #17