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jfz9580m

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22. It also seems like an alternate media universe
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 12:58 AM
Monday
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0817/1528812-israel-media/

This strikes me as an accurate perspective:

In the context of mainstream media coverage in Israel, Haaretz is considered an outlier in terms of its criticism of Israel's conduct in the war, plus its focus on Palestinian suffering.

Gideon Levy is one of its columnists.

"The issue is not (about) political views, not political positions," he told RTÉ News. "The issue is professional journalism."

"If you open Israeli TV or mainstream newspapers, at any given moment, you would think that in Gaza there are 20 people living. You know who they are? The hostages. They are also the only victims."

He describes the coverage as "shameful" and rejects any assertion that censorship is behind editorial decisions not to show the plight of Palestinians.


The horrifying Oct 7 attack by Hamas seems to have been the start of something monstrous. It appears to have radicalized Israeli society and is in the process of destroying Palestine entirely.

There is no point in dwelling on Hamas or bringing it up in response to everything. Hamas is a misogynistic terrorist group. But Israel is on its way to becoming a pariah state at this rate, if it’s not already there.

I once looked up something called Ynet and it really is this alternate universe..it will rot your brain to read stuff like that.

I was never particularly pro or anti Israel. I rarely have any strong views on things outside the environment and animal rights (and then specifically factory farming, ventilation shutdown etc), topics so neglected in any actual real way by 99% of other humans including the left (the perfunctory-“oh yes we are destroying the planet..now moving on..”aside) that I don’t think my abandoning those issues will help reality in any way.

I can usually see how the neverending left versus right arguments play out. But whether it’s a sense of what is right and wrong or mere self-preservation and sanity, this war is not in Israel’s interests in any sane way. As a neutral party.

Usually what’s compassionate and the decent thing is also what is intelligent for any technologically advanced society. Frivolous fluff plus brutality will destroy your brain.

One of the reasons I especially dislike Utilitarians and Effective Altruists is that they have perverted and misinterpreted something human brains should grasp easily sans external malice.

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A lot of Israelis disagree with Netanyahu's policies and actions. yardwork Aug 18 #1
I agree. Israeli society has collapsed morally. AloeVera Aug 18 #2
I want to be sure that I understand your post here. yardwork Aug 18 #9
Are these serious questions? AloeVera Aug 18 #11
Those goalposts are moving up and down the field faster than the wide receivers. yardwork Aug 18 #12
I moved no goalposts. I refused to be trapped by nonsensical, leading questions. AloeVera Aug 18 #13
Thanks for the Turkish, British perspective. Mosby Aug 18 #3
The only thing that matters: is the information correct? n/t Uncle Joe Aug 18 #4
It's opinion. Mosby Aug 18 #5
900 Israeli soldiers committing suicide since October of 23 isn't an opinion, Uncle Joe Aug 18 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Aug 18 #7
28 suicides not 900. Mosby Aug 18 #8
My mistake, I read the total number of killed as suicides, however if you google it the number is 50-54, and Uncle Joe Aug 18 #10
If it is so easy to Google would you please provide a link. sheshe2 Aug 18 #14
I corrected it with the post that you're responding to. "My mistake" etc. Uncle Joe Aug 18 #15
Yet, no correction on the original post that people are recommending as fact. sheshe2 Aug 18 #16
There is nothing written in the OP or the video that you are able to cite as being incorrect. Furthermore Uncle Joe Aug 18 #17
I am talking about posts 6-9 sheshe2 Aug 18 #18
Again post 10 was the correction. Uncle Joe Aug 18 #19
Yesterday someone used a different right wing Turkish "news" service lapucelle Aug 18 #20
IKR?! Turkey of all places! sheshe2 Aug 18 #21
It also seems like an alternate media universe jfz9580m Monday #22
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