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Silent Type

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39. Not exactly true. Traditional Medicare has very detailed coverage rules that prevent some questionable claims.
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 12:33 PM
Wednesday

Further, Medicare audits providers exhibiting a billing pattern that is questionable, often 3, 4, 5 years after services rendered, prompting providers to be careful.

Every few days, one reads of Medicare audits where a provider billed millions of dollar over 4 years, when no patient was even seen. Medicare doesn't catch it and we get ripped off.

MA on the other hand often has only 12 to 18 months to recoup questionable services. So they deny upfront. Most denials are overturned quickly once the doc send in records. If you don't think providers -- including Marcus Welby -- don't cheat, you are mistaken.

And, home health gets audited too.

KFF:

Key Takeaways:
"Medicare Advantage insurers made nearly 50 million prior authorization determinations in 2023, reflecting steady year-over-year increases since 2021 (37 million) and 2022 (46 million) as the number of people enrolled in Medicare Advantage has grown. The determinations represent requests for approval that providers are required to submit before providing a service. Substantially fewer prior authorization reviews for traditional Medicare beneficiaries were submitted to CMS – just under 400,000 in fiscal year 2023 – though the number of people enrolled in Medicare Advantage and traditional Medicare were similar in these years.

"In 2023, there were nearly 2 prior authorization determinations on average per Medicare Advantage enrollee, similar to the amount in 2019. In contrast, in 2023, about 1 prior authorization review was submitted per 100 traditional Medicare beneficiaries – a rate of about 0.01 per person — which reflects the limited set of services subject to prior authorization in traditional Medicare.

"In 2023, insurers fully or partially denied 3.2 million prior authorization requests, which is a somewhat smaller share (6.4%) of all requests than in 2022 (7.4%). Though there were substantially fewer prior authorization reviews for traditional Medicare beneficiaries, a larger share was denied – 28.8% in 2023. Denial rates varied across the limited set of services subject to prior authorization in traditional Medicare.

"A small share of denied prior authorization requests was appealed in Medicare Advantage (11.7% in 2023). That represents an increase since 2019, when 7.5% of denied prior authorization requests in Medicare Advantage were appealed. A relatively small share of denied prior authorization reviews was appealed in traditional Medicare (6.4% in 2022) as well.

"Though a small share of prior authorization denials were appealed to Medicare Advantage insurers, most appeals (81.7%) were partially or fully overturned in 2023. That compares to less than one-third (29%) of appeals overturned in traditional Medicare in 2022. These requests represent medical care that was ordered by a health care provider and ultimately deemed necessary but was potentially delayed because of the additional step of appealing the initial prior authorization decision. Such delays may have negative effects on a person’s health."

https://www.kff.org/medicare/nearly-50-million-prior-authorization-requests-were-sent-to-medicare-advantage-insurers-in-2023/




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I switched from an advantage to regular Medicare about 10 years ago Walleye Wednesday #1
Thom Hartmann predicted a year ago gab13by13 Wednesday #7
But still, 53% of beneficaries choose Medicare Advantage because they believe it is more affordable for them. Silent Type Wednesday #10
"... they believe it is more affordable." Grins Wednesday #32
Like I said, you get a choice. If Medicare is better for you, take it. If MA is better, take it. But don't try to take Silent Type Wednesday #34
I would be doing tradtional Medicare + a plan to cover my meds, but I chose Medicare Advantage for dental and vision iluvtennis Wednesday #33
Exactly, it's a choice. MA is definitely better for some people, others not. Silent Type Wednesday #35
My daughter is an RN case manager for home care Freddie Wednesday #27
Not exactly true. Traditional Medicare has very detailed coverage rules that prevent some questionable claims. Silent Type Wednesday #39
Will do. Joinfortmill Wednesday #11
Good for you. Luckily, I learned about Medicare Supplement and ignored the "advantage" propaganda. we can do it Wednesday #2
Are there restrictions on switching from Adv. to Medicare? nt Ilsa Wednesday #3
Yes IbogaProject Wednesday #5
Thank you very much. nt Ilsa Wednesday #20
The issue is getting a Medigap supplement Abnredleg Wednesday #6
Thank you very much. nt Ilsa Wednesday #18
Yes, some, unless there is a s qualifying event. Joinfortmill Wednesday #13
Thank you very much. nt Ilsa Wednesday #16
Original Medicare? Sanity Claws Wednesday #4
Advantage Plans include Parts A and B Abnredleg Wednesday #8
Plain Medicare certainly covers doctors visits. gab13by13 Wednesday #9
Medicare covers part A & B. Joinfortmill Wednesday #14
Medicare Part A (hospital, etc.) deRien Wednesday #24
Original Medicare is both Part A and Part B Bob_in_VA Wednesday #31
OP--there's a lot of misinformation in this thread. marybourg Wednesday #12
Everyrhing I posted is absolutely true to my experience Joinfortmill Wednesday #15
I wasn't referring to your information. marybourg Wednesday #21
SHIP? Sanity Claws Wednesday #17
This: marybourg Wednesday #22
Thanks Sanity Claws Wednesday #26
Be aware, Supplemental Plans will only cover you once without a full medical history. lark Wednesday #19
It's complicated, for sure. Joinfortmill Wednesday #23
My plan was not being offered in 2026 so I was able to switch EverHopeful Wednesday #25
Last year a friend who had Medicare Advantage was informed that her insurer was no longer doing business in her area. Lonestarblue Wednesday #28
Summation: the Advantage Plan that sounds so good today can bite you in the ass tomorrow Auggie Wednesday #29
Good advice. Joinfortmill Wednesday #30
If you can afford it, always get real Medicare. If you MUST get Advantage due to financial reasons, make sure you Fil1957 Wednesday #36
Your health history might prevent you getting a Medigap plan** NGeorgian Wednesday #37
Medicare Supplemental plans can be very expensive. Sogo Wednesday #38
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