The Way Forward

regnaD kciN

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30. "Heads, they win. Tails, we lose."

Thu Mar 13, 2025, 09:37 PM

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Frankly, I’m fucking sick of those being the options. And the only way we can stop it is by taking the risk of upending the status-quo that only allows the Repugs to get away with whatever they want.

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I'll throw my 2 cents of criticism in here [View all] EarlG Yesterday OP

until schumer and the top democratic leadership is removed i will not donate a nickle to them moonshinegnomie Yesterday #1

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Yesterday #2

Same here. However I am sending Chuck a letter. Raven123 Yesterday #25

And the Dems DENVERPOPS Yesterday #48

Done donating Capperdan 8 hrs ago #85

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Yesterday #58

In MANY ways, Bernie with his progressive populist principles is the most Democratic Democrat in Congress!! InAbLuEsTaTe Yesterday #62

AOC as well. choie 3 hrs ago #104

I completely agree, AOC is an absolute gem... but let's not forget she was influenced by Our Fearless Leader himself!! InAbLuEsTaTe 2 hrs ago #109

Amen moonshine... berksdem 6 hrs ago #91

Unfortunately same place Terry_M 4 hrs ago #101

Guess what? tRump's already doing whatever the hell he wants, piss poor excuse but hey, its doesn't surprise me if they ImNotGod Yesterday #3

Yep...but we're supposed to belive that WITH Gov open Trump can't do anything?? ROFLMMFAO!! Bengus81 14 hrs ago #74

Excellent point! n/t returnee 4 hrs ago #100

There have been quite a few Dems with a strong message of resistance to trump... Think. Again. Yesterday #4

Good to know! sheshe2 Yesterday #8

Why would you mention Warren when I explicitly spoke of the "young"? Think. Again. Yesterday #9

I was being facetious... sheshe2 Yesterday #15

Oh, I see, you assumed I was saying something I did not say. Think. Again. 18 hrs ago #73

Yeah, if there's one thing the Democratic leadership adores doing intheflow 10 hrs ago #81

Messaging has been our problem for too long. Deuxcents Yesterday #5

The magnitude of Schumer's failure is that it's a double fail... regnaD kciN Yesterday #45

Agree. mzmolly Yesterday #6

The Dems were not allowed any input to the CR SnoopDog Yesterday #7

The gop were fine with a shut down. PortTack 2 hrs ago #108

I agree. They're failing badly on unified messaging. highplainsdem Yesterday #10

With regard to your last point, I think that's important EarlG Yesterday #12

I hope it's not too late for some serious soul searching. democrank Yesterday #11

Well said, democrank: Mingle. Listen. Respond. Gather. Organize. Fight. wordstroken Yesterday #22

what Dems are talking aboiut imported cheese? All I hear is Dems talking in regular speak about LymphocyteLover Yesterday #33

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Yesterday #37

I think corporatism and oligarchy are low-hanging fruit here LearnedHand 3 hrs ago #103

Schumer just explained that while a CR is terrible, a shutdown would cause a federal court shutdown and ancianita Yesterday #13

That doesn't sound unreasonable EarlG Yesterday #18

It's absolutely the only option. Tonight a big thanks goes out to Schumer for appearing immediately after the CR vote. ancianita Yesterday #20

Do Not Want the Courts to Shut Down Tbear Yesterday #19

EXACTLY. They are the bulwark. We are the party of sanity and we ARE winning. ancianita Yesterday #21

Yup. That one one point convinced me. SunSeeker 23 hrs ago #64

Plus the bill continues Social Security and Medicare spending, critical to about 75 million Americans. BComplex 10 hrs ago #82

What a bunch of BS thumper2547 Yesterday #27

The Democratic Party operates on different levels. Attack the congressional Dems all you want when they're ancianita Yesterday #44

Here you are. Lulu KC 7 hrs ago #87

Thank you for this. mzmolly Yesterday #29

I cannot disagree more angrychair Yesterday #31

they are not voting for the CR. They are voting to allow it to go to vote and be passed by the GOP LymphocyteLover Yesterday #36

Fine. You're right. Whatever the House sent, the Senate still passed. ancianita Yesterday #39

I get that angrychair Yesterday #46

BIG mistake!! We need to take the fight to these fascists!! InAbLuEsTaTe Yesterday #50

Thank you for that voice of reason. The courts issue is super important. LymphocyteLover Yesterday #34

buck stops voteragain Yesterday #14

Good summation crimycarny Yesterday #16

100+ InAbLuEsTaTe Yesterday #40

The party lacks strong leadership today. Sorry to say it Bristlecone Yesterday #17

Double bind Nasruddin Yesterday #23

Which option causes the least destruction and lasting harm? Martin Eden Yesterday #24

K&R Docreed2003 Yesterday #26

100% agree with every word of this obamanut2012 Yesterday #28

"Heads, they win. Tails, we lose." regnaD kciN Yesterday #30

At some point you have to take a principled stand... that time is NOW!! InAbLuEsTaTe Yesterday #55

I listened to Schumer explain his reasoning on MSNBC on tunein radio out on a walk CentralMass Yesterday #32

All true, but Schumer also knows what kind of mess happens when the government shuts down FakeNoose Yesterday #41

Yes, he does. ancianita Yesterday #47

" In politics, looking like you're fighting goes a very, very long way." Pinback Yesterday #35

I agree EarlG - the outcome is bad either way FakeNoose Yesterday #38

I think that's an excellent assessment. hamsterjill Yesterday #42

Thank you! You're singing my tune. yellow dahlia Yesterday #43

With all due respect, just what strong counter-message do you suggest? defacto7 Yesterday #49

No, our best weapon against Trump, where we are actually winning, is the federal courts. SunSeeker 23 hrs ago #69

Change the Storyline Marvin Jones Yesterday #51

FIGHT, god damn it! Wild blueberry Yesterday #52

DING DING DING... we hava winna!! InAbLuEsTaTe Yesterday #54

This is Democracy......... Lovie777 Yesterday #53

EarlG, please see this Brian Beutler piece that Greg Sargent just posted about on Bluesky: highplainsdem Yesterday #56

Nancy Pelosi would have used this situation iemanja Yesterday #57

This message was self-deleted by its author Gimpyknee Yesterday #59

Seriously? Gimpyknee Yesterday #60

HaHaHaHa!!!! You're joking right??? GP6971 23 hrs ago #71

Pretty much how I feel about it. We're finally starting to hear stronger push back. But there's still no spark. marble falls Yesterday #61

Rock and a hard place. So, the public needs to Ilsa 23 hrs ago #63

SHUT DOWN DOGE crud 23 hrs ago #65

Advise I was given... oldsoldierfadingfast 23 hrs ago #66

They need their own "drain the swamp" SSJVegeta 23 hrs ago #67

My sense remains is that the Democrats thought that there was no way Kamala would not win - NewHendoLib 23 hrs ago #68

I'm always thrilled when some else sees multigraincracker 23 hrs ago #70

Thank you for your insight. applegrove 23 hrs ago #72

I agree with much of what you wrote. BUT... Tom Rinaldo 12 hrs ago #75

Maybe the answer is, as Barack Obama put it, that "we are the ones we've been waiting for" EarlG 12 hrs ago #77

As I understand it JustAnotherGen 12 hrs ago #76

You make a good point EarlG. Hope22 11 hrs ago #78

Well stated EarlG. Do what you believe or do what you believe will cause the least harm. twodogsbarking 11 hrs ago #79

analysis mamacita75 11 hrs ago #80

All but one Democrat in the house voted against this bill HereForTheParty 10 hrs ago #83

Don't shut down the government. Two bad choices. Jakes Progress 9 hrs ago #84

We are not, let me repeat, not, in a time of business as usual. Prairie_Seagull 8 hrs ago #86

this is the message: NJCher 7 hrs ago #88

If this CR means Musk gets a position, then no, we cannot approve that. Festivito 7 hrs ago #89

Whoops! Your 2 cents ae only worth $.0135. mjvpi 7 hrs ago #90

You are wrong about... johnnyknj 5 hrs ago #92

My Problem Is That I Don't Know What Is In The Bill DallasNE 5 hrs ago #93

You've Nailed It! Daleuhlmann 5 hrs ago #94

kick question everything 5 hrs ago #95

Dems need a message malaise 5 hrs ago #96

While I hate the CR, I think that shutting down the government is not a good idea LetMyPeopleVote 5 hrs ago #97

I agree senseandsensibility 4 hrs ago #98

A Stand Godot51 4 hrs ago #99

Right to the heart of the matter as usual, EarlG LearnedHand 3 hrs ago #102

Well said Earl. JohnSJ 3 hrs ago #105

Indeed. It's Time For A New Buck. I Say It's Time For Mark Kelly To Be The New Buck In Charge MayReasonRule 3 hrs ago #106

the more we keep harping that Dems don't have a message, the more that becomes the cw bigtree 3 hrs ago #107

I agree. The buck stops with Schumer. TomSlick 2 hrs ago #110

No, would happen anyway. Sparkly 22 min ago #112

Well stated!! Sparkly 30 min ago #111