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FakeNoose

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41. All true, but Schumer also knows what kind of mess happens when the government shuts down

Thu Mar 13, 2025, 09:52 PM

14 hrs ago

Like EarlG says, if the government is down for 30 days, that's when the shit hits the fan. Chump can do anything he wants including declare martial law or worse. Schumer knows that can never be allowed to happen. It's the end of the line.

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I'll throw my 2 cents of criticism in here [View all] EarlG 16 hrs ago OP

until schumer and the top democratic leadership is removed i will not donate a nickle to them moonshinegnomie 16 hrs ago #1

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles 16 hrs ago #2

Same here. However I am sending Chuck a letter. Raven123 15 hrs ago #25

And the Dems DENVERPOPS 14 hrs ago #48

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe 14 hrs ago #58

In MANY ways, Bernie with his progressive populist principles is the most Democratic Democrat in Congress!! InAbLuEsTaTe 14 hrs ago #62

Guess what? tRump's already doing whatever the hell he wants, piss poor excuse but hey, its doesn't surprise me if they ImNotGod 16 hrs ago #3

Yep...but we're supposed to belive that WITH Gov open Trump can't do anything?? ROFLMMFAO!! Bengus81 4 hrs ago #74

There have been quite a few Dems with a strong message of resistance to trump... Think. Again. 16 hrs ago #4

Good to know! sheshe2 16 hrs ago #8

Why would you mention Warren when I explicitly spoke of the "young"? Think. Again. 16 hrs ago #9

I was being facetious... sheshe2 16 hrs ago #15

Oh, I see, you assumed I was saying something I did not say. Think. Again. 7 hrs ago #73

Yeah, if there's one thing the Democratic leadership adores doing intheflow 14 min ago #81

Messaging has been our problem for too long. Deuxcents 16 hrs ago #5

The magnitude of Schumer's failure is that it's a double fail... regnaD kciN 14 hrs ago #45

Agree. mzmolly 16 hrs ago #6

The Dems were not allowed any input to the CR SnoopDog 16 hrs ago #7

I agree. They're failing badly on unified messaging. highplainsdem 16 hrs ago #10

With regard to your last point, I think that's important EarlG 16 hrs ago #12

I hope it's not too late for some serious soul searching. democrank 16 hrs ago #11

Well said, democrank: Mingle. Listen. Respond. Gather. Organize. Fight. wordstroken 15 hrs ago #22

what Dems are talking aboiut imported cheese? All I hear is Dems talking in regular speak about LymphocyteLover 14 hrs ago #33

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe 14 hrs ago #37

Schumer just explained that while a CR is terrible, a shutdown would cause a federal court shutdown and ancianita 16 hrs ago #13

That doesn't sound unreasonable EarlG 15 hrs ago #18

It's absolutely the only option. Tonight a big thanks goes out to Schumer for appearing immediately after the CR vote. ancianita 15 hrs ago #20

Do Not Want the Courts to Shut Down Tbear 15 hrs ago #19

EXACTLY. They are the bulwark. We are the party of sanity and we ARE winning. ancianita 15 hrs ago #21

Yup. That one one point convinced me. SunSeeker 13 hrs ago #64

Plus the bill continues Social Security and Medicare spending, critical to about 75 million Americans. BComplex 11 min ago #82

What a bunch of BS thumper2547 15 hrs ago #27

The Democratic Party operates on different levels. Attack the congressional Dems all you want when they're ancianita 14 hrs ago #44

Thank you for this. mzmolly 15 hrs ago #29

I cannot disagree more angrychair 15 hrs ago #31

they are not voting for the CR. They are voting to allow it to go to vote and be passed by the GOP LymphocyteLover 14 hrs ago #36

Fine. You're right. Whatever the House sent, the Senate still passed. ancianita 14 hrs ago #39

I get that angrychair 14 hrs ago #46

BIG mistake!! We need to take the fight to these fascists!! InAbLuEsTaTe 14 hrs ago #50

Thank you for that voice of reason. The courts issue is super important. LymphocyteLover 14 hrs ago #34

buck stops voteragain 16 hrs ago #14

Good summation crimycarny 16 hrs ago #16

100+ InAbLuEsTaTe 14 hrs ago #40

The party lacks strong leadership today. Sorry to say it Bristlecone 15 hrs ago #17

Double bind Nasruddin 15 hrs ago #23

Which option causes the least destruction and lasting harm? Martin Eden 15 hrs ago #24

K&R Docreed2003 15 hrs ago #26

100% agree with every word of this obamanut2012 15 hrs ago #28

"Heads, they win. Tails, we lose." regnaD kciN 15 hrs ago #30

At some point you have to take a principled stand... that time is NOW!! InAbLuEsTaTe 14 hrs ago #55

I listened to Schumer explain his reasoning on MSNBC on tunein radio out on a walk CentralMass 15 hrs ago #32

All true, but Schumer also knows what kind of mess happens when the government shuts down FakeNoose 14 hrs ago #41

Yes, he does. ancianita 14 hrs ago #47

" In politics, looking like you're fighting goes a very, very long way." Pinback 14 hrs ago #35

I agree EarlG - the outcome is bad either way FakeNoose 14 hrs ago #38

I think that's an excellent assessment. hamsterjill 14 hrs ago #42

Thank you! You're singing my tune. yellow dahlia 14 hrs ago #43

With all due respect, just what is that strong counter-message do you suggest? defacto7 14 hrs ago #49

No, our best weapon against Trump, where we are actually winning, is the federal courts. SunSeeker 13 hrs ago #69

Change the Storyline Marvin Jones 14 hrs ago #51

FIGHT, god damn it! Wild blueberry 14 hrs ago #52

DING DING DING... we hava winna!! InAbLuEsTaTe 14 hrs ago #54

This is Democracy......... Lovie777 14 hrs ago #53

EarlG, please see this Brian Beutler piece that Greg Sargent just posted about on Bluesky: highplainsdem 14 hrs ago #56

Nancy Pelosi would have used this situation iemanja 14 hrs ago #57

This message was self-deleted by its author Gimpyknee 14 hrs ago #59

Seriously? Gimpyknee 14 hrs ago #60

HaHaHaHa!!!! You're joking right??? GP6971 13 hrs ago #71

Pretty much how I feel about it. We're finally starting to hear stronger push back. But there's still no spark. marble falls 14 hrs ago #61

Rock and a hard place. So, the public needs to Ilsa 13 hrs ago #63

SHUT DOWN DOGE crud 13 hrs ago #65

Advise I was given... oldsoldierfadingfast 13 hrs ago #66

They need their own "drain the swamp" SSJVegeta 13 hrs ago #67

My sense remains is that the Democrats thought that there was no way Kamala would not win - NewHendoLib 13 hrs ago #68

I'm always thrilled when some else sees multigraincracker 13 hrs ago #70

Thank you for your insight. applegrove 13 hrs ago #72

I agree with much of what you wrote. BUT... Tom Rinaldo 2 hrs ago #75

Maybe the answer is, as Barack Obama put it, that "we are the ones we've been waiting for" EarlG 2 hrs ago #77

As I understand it JustAnotherGen 2 hrs ago #76

You make a good point EarlG. Hope22 1 hr ago #78

Well stated EarlG. Do what you believe or do what you believe will cause the least harm. twodogsbarking 1 hr ago #79

analysis mamacita75 59 min ago #80